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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: master f8bb6cca33: Return the same file from locate-file in nativecomp and non
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2022 19:22:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <838rtcjvp0.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvpmmoec4v.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (message from Stefan Monnier on Mon, 14 Mar 2022 12:57:45 -0400)

> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Cc: larsi@gnus.org,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2022 12:57:45 -0400
> 
> > E.g., is the result below expected, or is it a bug?
> >
> >   (locate-file "simple" native-comp-eln-load-path '(".eln"))
> >     => nil
> 
> I assume you don't have a `simple.eln` file in your
> `native-comp-eln-load-path`, so nil seems correct.

So you are saying that finding the .eln file produced from simple.el
is not something we should support, like we do with the *.elc files?
And/or that the tools which we use since day one for *.elc files
should not be extended to support the *.eln files?

> > Or what about load-history -- why does it only show the *.elc files
> > loaded by the session, but not the *.eln files?
> 
> To better preserve compatibility.

Compatibility with what?  The native-compilation feature explicitly
_breaks_ compatibility, in that it introduces a new kind of "compiled
Lisp" files, new places to look for them, and many other exciting
incompatibilities.  You cannot be compatible when such changes happen.

Anyway, I will now bow out of this discussion, since it's abundantly
clear we deeply disagree about quite a few of the involved aspects,
starting with what is the role and the purpose of locate-file.



  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-14 17:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2022-03-12 21:47   ` master f8bb6cca33: Return the same file from locate-file in nativecomp and non Stefan Monnier
2022-03-12 21:51     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-03-12 23:23       ` Stefan Monnier
2022-03-12 23:40         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-03-13  4:51           ` Stefan Monnier
2022-03-13  6:01             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-13 14:16               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-03-13 14:26                 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-03-13 14:40                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-03-13 17:15                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-14  0:20                     ` Stefan Monnier
2022-03-14 14:29                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-14 16:57                         ` Stefan Monnier
2022-03-14 17:22                           ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-03-14 18:09                             ` Stefan Monnier
2022-03-14 22:29                               ` Corwin Brust
2022-03-15 13:11                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-03-13 16:59                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-13 22:16                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-03-14  3:26                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-14  2:57                   ` Stefan Monnier
2022-03-14  3:38                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-14  4:04                       ` Stefan Monnier

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