From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r103590: Convert some names in texinfo files to UTF-8. Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 20:43:38 +0200 Message-ID: <837hc9h2qt.fsf@gnu.org> References: Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1299609951 12943 80.91.229.12 (8 Mar 2011 18:45:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 18:45:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Juanma Barranquero Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 08 19:45:46 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Px1uh-0001M6-Es for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 19:45:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48983 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Px1uh-0000kr-0z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 13:45:43 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=47791 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Px1ub-0000ji-Gc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 13:45:38 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Px1ua-00037c-9c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 13:45:37 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:45369) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Px1ua-00037R-0W; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 13:45:36 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LHR00C005FF7100@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 20:45:33 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.124.58.59]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LHR00B525FVR840@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 20:45:33 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-Received-From: 80.179.55.166 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:136901 Archived-At: > From: Juanma Barranquero > Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 14:14:26 +0100 > Cc: Emacs developers >=20 > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 09:59, Glenn Morris wrote: >=20 > > =C2=A0Convert some names in texinfo files to UTF-8. >=20 > This brings me grief on Windows, because there aren't that many > texinfo binary distributions out there for Windows. >=20 > makeinfo 4.8, which is very stable, does not grok UTF-8: >=20 > makeinfo --force --enable-encoding -I. emacs.texi > emacs.texi:33: warning: unrecognized encoding name `UTF-8'. >=20 > and makeinfo 4.13a (the current one at GnuWin32) is buggy as hell a= nd > just crashes. >=20 > ISTR Eli's said that he builds his own texinfo,but that's a bit of = overkill... No, I use the same v4.8 you do, so it doesn't work for me either. I think we should just revert this change, because it will cause grie= f to TeX as well, AFAIK. It is a well known (and unfortunate) fact tha= t Texinfo doesn't lend itself well to i18n.