From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs as word processor Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 21:06:04 +0200 Message-ID: <837gc1efs3.fsf@gnu.org> References: <5288A59E.7030109@dancol.org> <87vbzqfgd6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87mwl04w3k.fsf@zigzag.favinet> <83zjoyewgn.fsf@gnu.org> <528DBD8C.2040806@online.de> <83iovleneq.fsf@gnu.org> <528E5240.5050703@online.de> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1385060868 19504 80.91.229.3 (21 Nov 2013 19:07:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 19:07:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Andreas =?iso-8859-15?Q?R=F6hler?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 21 20:07:53 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VjZbV-00042x-0E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 20:07:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34878 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjZbU-0006yd-GL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 14:07:52 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42951) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjZZo-0004vw-Oi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 14:06:14 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjZZj-0006wP-4J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 14:06:08 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:56037) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjZZi-0006w2-TG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 14:06:03 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MWM00A00NK6B300@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 21:06:01 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MWM00AX0NQ16L50@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 21:06:01 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <528E5240.5050703@online.de> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.166 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:165503 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 19:34:40 +0100 > From: Andreas R=F6hler > CC: Eli Zaretskii >=20 > Am 21.11.2013 17:21, schrieb Eli Zaretskii: >=20 > >> Also don't think Emacs may change it's path that easily: it woul= d mean to turn from producer domination into a kind of consumer marke= t. > >> AFAIS there is no infrastructure for this. > > > > Before we worry about popularity, we should worry about functiona= lity. >=20 > You still didn't get it. It's about usability, which is grown a kin= d of science, while often ignored here - with some the notable except= ions, yes. Popularity has almost nothing to do with usability, in my experience. And again, this is tangential to what Richard wanted to discuss.