From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Feature freezes and Emacs 25 (was: Dynamic loading progress) Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2015 10:33:46 +0200 Message-ID: <837fluqkd1.fsf@gnu.org> References: <56259FDD.8040401@dancol.org> <87zizeme8k.fsf@tromey.com> <5625B166.3080104@dancol.org> <86zizdczhp.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <871tc315y3.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83k2pvqg0l.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1446885253 21366 80.91.229.3 (7 Nov 2015 08:34:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 08:34:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: John Wiegley Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 07 09:34:04 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zuywl-0002WS-GH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2015 09:34:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42553 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zuywl-0002lV-1u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2015 03:34:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57116) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zuywi-0002lO-7p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2015 03:34:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zuywd-0007uj-7P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2015 03:34:00 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:57937) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zuywc-0007ub-VS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2015 03:33:55 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NXF00A00RM5KK00@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2015 10:33:53 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.94.185.246]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NXF00A84RSGJD20@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Sat, 07 Nov 2015 10:33:53 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:193500 Archived-At: > From: John Wiegley > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2015 20:53:19 -0500 > > Let us officially freeze in one weeks, next Friday, Nov 13 at 11:59 PM UTC, so > that any ready, last minute features can get in before 25.1 is closed. Then > we'll take a pause and review whether anything should be allowed after the > freeze. Once we're comfortable with the bug situation, we release. I think we should first decide whether new features that are "almost ready" should or should not be in 25.1. Two examples that immediately come to mind are dynamic loading and xwidgets; I don't know if there are others. After we make the decision, we could see if one week's time is enough. > I'd like to take a somewhat generous period for bug fixes, with feature work > happening in the meanwhile on topic branches. All severe bugs should either be > closed, or consciously deferred, before letting 25 out the door. We used to cut a release branch fairly early in the pretest , certainly at least when the first pretest tarball is put on alpha.gnu.org. Does the above mean you want the pretest to be worked on on master instead?