From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Character folding in the pretest Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2016 21:36:45 +0200 Message-ID: <837fikw9ma.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87mvriuk3a.fsf@gmail.com> <8737t9ex1p.fsf@petton.fr> <83oabxyf71.fsf@gnu.org> <56B230D1.90902@gmail.com> <87bn7x4i4o.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87d1sc4rin.fsf@djcbsoftware.nl> <83r3gswh5e.fsf@gnu.org> <56B38C2F.30006@cs.ucla.edu> <83bn7wwerl.fsf@gnu.org> <56B3A5B5.6040102@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1454614640 29476 80.91.229.3 (4 Feb 2016 19:37:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 19:37:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: djcb@djcbsoftware.nl, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 04 20:37:19 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aRPiQ-00017N-B9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Feb 2016 20:37:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43741 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aRPiP-0003yj-Lk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Feb 2016 14:37:17 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34115) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aRPiD-0003yL-7L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Feb 2016 14:37:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aRPi9-0004sO-4I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Feb 2016 14:37:05 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:40173) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aRPi9-0004sK-1Y; Thu, 04 Feb 2016 14:37:01 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4556 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aRPi8-0000Q2-1o; Thu, 04 Feb 2016 14:37:00 -0500 In-reply-to: <56B3A5B5.6040102@cs.ucla.edu> (message from Paul Eggert on Thu, 4 Feb 2016 11:25:41 -0800) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:199323 Archived-At: > Cc: djcb@djcbsoftware.nl, emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Paul Eggert > Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 11:25:41 -0800 > > On 02/04/2016 09:45 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > We should instead cater to users who search text they_can_ read. > > This depends on what one means by "read". I can "read" Swedish in the > sense that I know where the word boundaries are and have some idea of > how they're pronounced. I can also "read" Belarusian in the sense that I > know Cyrillic and a bit of Russian and can follow Belarusian better than > Swedish, though I easily get lost. In both cases, I'd prefer > Unicode-type case folding even though it's "wrong" to ignore diacritics > in the native languages. Then the current defaults are definitely for you, I think.