From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Split `simple.el'? Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2018 12:47:18 +0300 Message-ID: <837epm2deh.fsf@gnu.org> References: <5f1e960c-483f-4902-b4c2-b7a4ca3b04f4@default> <83fu4a2n3y.fsf@gnu.org> <767876a8-5dd0-5495-d780-28118aeab0a6@gmail.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1522921553 20035 195.159.176.226 (5 Apr 2018 09:45:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 09:45:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jefferson Carpenter Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 05 11:45:49 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f41Sl-00054Y-Dn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Apr 2018 11:45:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44226 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f41Uq-0004S4-Px for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Apr 2018 05:47:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39474) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f41U7-0004RL-9O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Apr 2018 05:47:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f41U4-00025x-4i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Apr 2018 05:47:11 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:34729) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f41U4-00025t-0v; Thu, 05 Apr 2018 05:47:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2770 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1f41U0-0007RY-W4; Thu, 05 Apr 2018 05:47:06 -0400 In-reply-to: <767876a8-5dd0-5495-d780-28118aeab0a6@gmail.com> (message from Jefferson Carpenter on Thu, 5 Apr 2018 08:17:14 +0000) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:224363 Archived-At: > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Jefferson Carpenter > Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 08:17:14 +0000 > > >> When I hit C-h h inside Putty, running Emacs on Linux over SSH, it takes > >> less than a second. > > > > When you do that, the fonts are served by your local X server, which > > runs on Windows, right? Then I'm guessing that the X server already > > has the fonts loaded since the last session of Emacs or other > > programs, so the comparison is "unfair". > > > > It takes 5 to 6 seconds on my Windows system to display etc/HELLO, > > when I start with "emacs -Q", FWIW. > > No X server at all - just running in terminal mode over SSH. Then your SSH timings are not relevant at all to this discussion, since text-mode frames don't use any fonts at all.