From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Some developement questions Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 17:04:41 +0300 Message-ID: <837ekhb2me.fsf@gnu.org> References: <444779489.8504194.1534538988289.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <444779489.8504194.1534538988289@mail.yahoo.com> <83sh3cfb3t.fsf@gnu.org> <87sh36inql.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <8336v6cvem.fsf@gnu.org> <8736v6icgt.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <83tvnmb958.fsf@gnu.org> <877ekigiiw.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1535033015 25250 195.159.176.226 (23 Aug 2018 14:03:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 14:03:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: spacibba@aol.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: hw Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 23 16:03:31 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fsqCt-0006Mp-J1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 16:03:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36684 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fsqEz-0000fO-Su for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 10:05:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55119) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fsqEN-00083Q-9A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 10:05:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fsqEK-0005Fm-Kw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 10:04:59 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:34298) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fsqEK-0005FW-Bl; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 10:04:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4594 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fsqEJ-0007p4-TC; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 10:04:56 -0400 In-reply-to: <877ekigiiw.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> (message from hw on Thu, 23 Aug 2018 00:17:11 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:228845 Archived-At: > From: hw > Cc: spacibba@aol.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 00:17:11 +0200 > > I think I see your point to assume that the defaults are good and to > present the user with the individual settings and to let him learn and > make his own decisions because everyone is too different to do anything > else. That's great when the new user uses Emacs because he wants to > learn how to use it, and it might not be so good when he wants to use > Emacs to get some work done while the defaults happen not to be good for > him: Even better when he can simply switch to a set of settings that > helps him with his work without having to go through all the trial and > error otherwise needed to get there. > > Does that make sense? It might. However, the proverbial proof of the pudding is in eating it: I look forward to seeing concrete proposals of sets of non-default settings that cater to certain users. Then we could perhaps discuss this further based on practical proposals, and see whether and how to incorporate that into Emacs. Thanks.