From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: delete-selection-mode as default (WAS: Some developement questions) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 17:07:23 +0300 Message-ID: <837ejqn71g.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83k1nxvm5j.fsf@gnu.org> <87sh2ih0bp.fsf@fastmail.fm> <83o9d5q1bi.fsf@gnu.org> <83zhwomp63.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1536761194 28861 195.159.176.226 (12 Sep 2018 14:06:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 14:06:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: hw@adminart.net, spacibba@aol.com, joostkremers@fastmail.fm, npostavs@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 12 16:06:30 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g05mm-0007LF-Kp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 16:06:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36451 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g05os-0003IM-Ke for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 10:08:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53840) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g05oi-0003I4-Gl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 10:08:33 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g05oh-0007xy-Qr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 10:08:28 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:39471) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g05nb-00079L-3S; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 10:07:19 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4164 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g05nU-0001Lh-3h; Wed, 12 Sep 2018 10:07:12 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Tue, 11 Sep 2018 20:33:05 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:229704 Archived-At: > From: Richard Stallman > Cc: hw@adminart.net, spacibba@aol.com, joostkremers@fastmail.fm, > npostavs@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, > drew.adams@oracle.com, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk > Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 20:33:05 -0400 > > > > * It is active. > > > * It is highlighted. > > > * DEL does not delete it. > > > * self-insert does not delete it. > > > Can you tell why you need it active and highlighted? Because > > otherwise, this is tantamount to turning off transient-mark-mode. > > It has to be active because C-x C-x is the way to activate the region > without changing it. > > C-x C-x is also a way to make the region highlighted. I guess I didn't explain myself clearly enough. What I was asking was why you need the region active? what features you want to use require that the region be active? what will you miss if "C-x C-x", "C-SPC M-f" etc. will not activate the region?