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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
Cc: jean.christophe.helary@traduction-libre.org,
	yuri.v.khan@gmail.com, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: evaluating numbers
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 19:34:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <837e3y5rv7.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bltbpsat.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (message from Juri Linkov on Sat, 16 Nov 2019 22:40:42 +0200)

> From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
> Cc: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>,
>   jean.christophe.helary@traduction-libre.org,  emacs-devel@gnu.org,
>   yuri.v.khan@gmail.com
> Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2019 22:40:42 +0200
> 
> > The right way of doing this is "C-u C-x =".  And if we think that this
> > shows way too much info, I'm OK with modifying "C-x =" to show the
> > character name as an optional feature.  These are commands that were
> > specifically designed to describe text; doing that as part of integer
> > evaluation is too general for that.
> 
> There are other cases where displaying Unicode names might be needed
> in the echo area, e.g. sometimes using query-replace to strip accents
> messes the prompt with combining accent characters stacked on each other
> that enlarges the minibuffer window:
> 
>   Query replace regexp (default [́̀̂] → ):

This is a bug in the command that issues the prompt: it should
insulate the combining characters so that they don't combine with the
brackets.  But that might be a separate issue.

> Wouldn't such prompt be more readable?
> 
>   Query replace regexp (default [?\N{COMBINING ACUTE ACCENT}] → ):

The original prompt had 3 characters, but in the latter you show only
one.  How is this the same?  And even one character takes a lot of
screen estate, so imagine how it will look with 3.  Doesn't sound like
a good idea.

Though we might provide a separate feature: a minor mode whereby
hovering the mouse over a character shows its name in a tooltip.  But
using the minibuffer for that is not something I like.



  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-17 17:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-07  9:43 evaluating numbers Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-11-07  9:57 ` Stephen Berman
2019-11-07 10:20   ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-11-07 10:30     ` Stephen Berman
2019-11-07 10:40       ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-11-07 14:39         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-08  0:36           ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-11-08 10:03             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-08 12:23               ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-11-08 13:22                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-09  0:20                   ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-11-09  7:24                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-08 13:49                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-09  0:15                   ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-11-09  7:22                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-09 11:18                       ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-11-09 11:48                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-10  0:59                           ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-11-10  8:06                             ` Andreas Schwab
2019-11-10 20:52                               ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-12 20:28                                 ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-12 22:05                                   ` Drew Adams
2019-11-12 22:21                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-12 23:30                                       ` Drew Adams
2019-11-13  8:10                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-13 14:47                                           ` Drew Adams
2019-11-14 12:45                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-14 22:50                                     ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-14 23:40                                       ` Noam Postavsky
2019-11-15  8:14                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-14  9:22                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-14  9:46                               ` Yuri Khan
2019-11-14 11:36                                 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-11-14 13:55                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-14 13:59                                   ` Noam Postavsky
2019-11-14 14:17                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-14 21:44                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-11-14 14:03                                   ` Andreas Schwab
2019-11-14 14:10                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-14 17:10                                   ` Paul Eggert
2019-11-14 18:32                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-14 18:39                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-15  8:32                                       ` Štěpán Němec
2019-11-15 14:54                                       ` Robert Pluim
2019-11-15 15:16                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-15 15:32                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-15 15:55                                             ` Robert Pluim
2019-11-15 16:00                                               ` Robert Pluim
2019-11-15 16:11                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-15 16:33                                                   ` Robert Pluim
2019-11-15 16:13                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-17  2:15                                             ` Richard Stallman
2019-11-17 20:02                                               ` Robert Pluim
2019-11-18 16:25                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-18 16:54                                                   ` Robert Pluim
2019-11-18 17:05                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-20 13:00                                                       ` Robert Pluim
2019-11-20 16:40                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-20 17:09                                                           ` Robert Pluim
2019-11-20 17:45                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-19  6:08                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2019-11-19  9:50                                                   ` Robert Pluim
2019-11-15 15:53                                           ` Robert Pluim
2019-11-15 16:13                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-15 16:43                                               ` Robert Pluim
2019-11-15 16:59                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-16 20:40                                       ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-17 17:34                                         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2019-11-17 21:16                                           ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-14 22:56                                 ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-09 16:03                         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-10  0:22                           ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-11-10  4:47                             ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-13 23:02                               ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-11-14 13:52                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-14  9:20                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-14 11:35                               ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-11-14 13:37                                 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-11-14 14:20                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-15 10:36                                   ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-11-15 13:03                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-28 14:52                                       ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-04-28 15:05                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-28 17:28                                           ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-28 23:16                                           ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-04-29  0:08                                             ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-29  0:21                                               ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-04-29  7:08                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-29  8:00                                               ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-04-29  3:23                                           ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-29  3:49                                             ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-04-29  3:51                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-29 10:09                                               ` Po Lu
2020-04-30  2:34                                               ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-30  3:04                                                 ` Stefan Monnier

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