From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Making Emacs more friendly to newcomers Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 16:22:31 +0300 Message-ID: <837dy7fyeg.fsf@gnu.org> References: <863691n4xl.wl-me@enzu.ru> <87imhw431x.fsf@yahoo.com> <87mu78huhx.fsf_-_@yahoo.com> <87k12bdgx7.fsf@yahoo.com> <83zhb6grtq.fsf@gnu.org> <83ftcwgb07.fsf@gnu.org> <291bb5b2-92d5-85f1-57d8-895eed14ffc2@yandex.ru> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="85195"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: seb@k-7.ch, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 22 15:27:48 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jRFPo-000M1i-0L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 15:27:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50566 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRFPm-0003pk-WE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 09:27:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53966) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRFKz-0007ux-Ro for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 09:22:50 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:58438) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRFKy-0004Ab-TC; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 09:22:48 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3137 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jRFKy-0007Oi-4X; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 09:22:48 -0400 In-Reply-To: <291bb5b2-92d5-85f1-57d8-895eed14ffc2@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Wed, 22 Apr 2020 04:35:48 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247508 Archived-At: > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Dmitry Gutov > Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 04:35:48 +0300 > > > Does this mean users who download this "shiny Emacs" will be unable to > > upgrade to a newer version? > > The pre-configuration could contain just one line: > > (require 'shiny-settings) > > where shiny-settings.el is distributed with Emacs and is updated > together with new releases. So we expect users not to customize their Emacs, as long as they use the "shiny Emacs"? What are the chances of that to work?