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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@catern.com>
Cc: arnold@tdrhq.com, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>,
	sbaugh@catern.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
	dgutov@yandex.ru
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/16] Speeding up DEFVAR_PER_BUFFER
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 18:12:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <837dqdxtea.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cover.1606009917.git.sbaugh@catern.com> (message from Spencer Baugh on Sat, 21 Nov 2020 21:34:29 -0500)

> From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@catern.com>
> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 21:34:29 -0500
> Cc: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@catern.com>, Arnold Noronha <arnold@tdrhq.com>,
>  Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
> 
> This patch series reworks access to Lisp_Object fields in struct
> buffer. The primary motivation is performance of DEFVAR_PER_BUFFER
> Lisp variables, but this also removes several now-unnecessary pieces
> of metadata and generally simplifies things.
> 
> Relative to v1, this patch series now performs a larger refactoring of
> struct buffer field access, which should provide for good performance
> while keeping the access method uniform.  I've also corrected style
> issues and bugs pointed out in review, and added some testing for
> buffer-local let variables.  (Thanks Stefan for the review, and the
> tests you added in the fix for bug#44733, both were quite helpful.)
> 
> It's possible to provide further performance improvements [...]

Thanks, but could you perhaps provide a more detailed overview of the
general idea of the changeset?  It is not easy to glean that from 16
patches, each one describing only the details of its narrow goal.
Please include in the more detailed overview indications what parts of
the series are really needed to speed up buffer-local variables and
which are cleanups in the areas of the changes not directly related to
speeding things up.

> I have an idea which would allow avoiding the mass change, if that's
> desired, which also has some additional benefits.  We could define
> getter functions (marked as inline) for each Lisp_Object field, and
> have BVAR call those field-specific getter functions by forming the
> name of the getter through token pasting.  The boilerplate of the
> getters would be kept under control by using an X macro to define both
> the fields in struct buffer and the getters. Something like:
> 
> #define FIELD_LIST \
>   C_FIELD(name) \
>   C_FIELD(filename) \
>   ...
>   LISP_FIELD(mode_line_format) \
>   ...
> 
> And then "instantiating" FIELD_LIST twice in two different contexts to
> define the Lisp_Object fields and the getters.

I don't think I have a clear idea of what will this mean in practice.
Can you show an example of its usage?

> Regardless of what approach we take, at least some level of
> benchmarking will be necessary.  Is there an established benchmark
> suite for these kinds of changes?

Is benchmark-run what you are after?  Or are you asking what use cases
of buffer-local bindings to use inside the benchmark?  If the latter,
then I guess some simple example with binding case-fold-search
followed by some regexp search would do, if you do that with various
numbers of live buffers in the session.

Thanks.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-11-22 16:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-14 16:34 ido-switch-buffer is slow with many buffers; others are fast catern
2020-11-14 18:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-14 20:06   ` sbaugh
2020-11-14 23:00     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-14 23:16 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-15  0:19   ` Spencer Baugh
2020-11-15 15:15     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-15 20:49       ` Spencer Baugh
2020-11-15 23:58         ` Arnold Noronha
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 00/10] Speeding up DEFVAR_PER_BUFFER (Was: ido-switch-buffer is slow) Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 17:29           ` [PATCH 00/10] Speeding up DEFVAR_PER_BUFFER Stefan Monnier
2020-11-22  2:34           ` [PATCH v2 00/16] " Spencer Baugh
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 01/16] Add a test for let-binding unwinding Spencer Baugh
2020-11-25 20:53               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-30 17:31                 ` Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 16:44               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 02/16] Assert not local-variable-p after setq in let_default binding Spencer Baugh
2020-11-25 20:54               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-01 16:45               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 03/16] Stop checking the constant default for enable_multibyte_characters Spencer Baugh
2020-11-25 20:57               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-01 16:52               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 04/16] Take buffer field name in DEFVAR_PER_BUFFER Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 16:56               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 05/16] Add BVAR_DEFAULT for access to buffer defaults Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 17:00               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 06/16] Use bset_* functions instead of BVAR Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 17:12               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 07/16] Take offset not idx in PER_BUFFER_VALUE_P Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 17:20               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 08/16] Combine unnecessarily separate loops in buffer.c Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 17:22               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 09/16] Add and use BUFFER_DEFAULT_VALUE_P Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 17:24               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 10/16] Add and use KILL_PER_BUFFER_VALUE Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 17:26               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 11/16] Assert that PER_BUFFER_IDX for Lisp variables is not 0 Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 17:32               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 12/16] Rearrange set_internal for buffer forwarded symbols Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 17:35               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 13/16] Get rid of buffer_permanent_local_flags array Spencer Baugh
2020-11-22 16:16               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-01 17:39               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 14/16] Remove unnecessary Qunbound check Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 17:40               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 15/16] Remove local_flags array in struct buffer Spencer Baugh
2020-11-22 20:04               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-01 17:57               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 16/16] Remove usage of buffer_local_flags Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 18:05               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22 11:19             ` [PATCH v2 00/16] Speeding up DEFVAR_PER_BUFFER Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-11-22 16:12             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2020-11-22 16:28               ` Spencer Baugh
2020-11-22 17:13                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-29 17:41                   ` Spencer Baugh
2020-11-30 18:32                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-30 20:11                       ` Spencer Baugh
2020-11-30 22:10                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-30 22:26                           ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-01 15:15                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-01 15:56                             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-01 15:10                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-01 15:20                           ` Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 16:01                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-01 16:16                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-01 18:10                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22 20:11                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 01/10] Take buffer field name in DEFVAR_PER_BUFFER Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 02/10] Add bset_save_length and use it Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 03/10] Use bset_last_selected_window everywhere Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 04/10] Use bset_enable_multibyte_characters everywhere Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 05/10] Add BVAR_DEFAULT for access to buffer defaults Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 06/10] Disallow using BVAR as an lvalue Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 07/10] Reorder buffer.h for upcoming rework of BVAR Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 08/10] Make cache_long_scans buffer-local when setting it Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 09/10] Access buffer_defaults in BVAR if there's no local binding Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 18:08           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-19 18:21             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 10/10] Don't iterate over all buffers in set_default_internal Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 18:21           ` Stefan Monnier

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