From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Joost Kremers <joostkremers@fastmail.fm>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: cc-mode fontification feels random
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2021 09:51:34 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <837dj8ls7d.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8735txfkk7.fsf@fastmail.fm> (message from Joost Kremers on Fri, 04 Jun 2021 22:11:06 +0200)
> From: Joost Kremers <joostkremers@fastmail.fm>
> Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2021 22:11:06 +0200
>
> > I'm not an expert on the internals of LSP servers, but it's my
> > understanding that for a language server like clangd, it needs access
> > not just to the current file, but the entire source tree[1].
>
> And speaking from my experience with lsp-mode (not eglot) and Python, it needs
> access to the entire virtual env so it can provide type information and
> completions for built-in Python packages and for 3rd-party packages that you use
> your code.
That cannot be a mandatory requirement, right? Because otherwise LSP
wouldn't be able to support editing of an unfinished project, where
not everything is laid out 100% yet. The user will expect that some
completion cases could be inaccurate when not everything is coded yet,
but the user will NOT expect to see inaccurate "syntax highlighting"
or indentation, nor incorrect "show definition" and "show callers"
results for the code that was already written, and in particular for
the code in the file being edited.
Thus, I'd expect LSP to be able to deal with missing information,
which then means it shouldn't require access to the entire tree as a
prerequisite for useful functionality.
Am I missing something?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-06-05 6:51 UTC|newest]
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2021-06-04 3:16 cc-mode fontification feels random Daniel Colascione
2021-06-04 6:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-04 7:10 ` Theodor Thornhill
2021-06-04 10:08 ` João Távora
2021-06-04 10:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-04 10:59 ` Philipp
2021-06-04 11:05 ` João Távora
2021-06-04 11:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-04 12:44 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-06-04 13:46 ` João Távora
2021-06-04 14:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-04 11:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-04 16:43 ` Jim Porter
[not found] ` <83k0n9l9pv.fsf@gnu.org>
2021-06-04 19:41 ` Jim Porter
2021-06-04 19:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-04 20:05 ` Jim Porter
2021-06-04 20:11 ` Joost Kremers
2021-06-05 6:51 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2021-06-05 10:14 ` Joost Kremers
2021-06-05 11:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-05 12:12 ` Joost Kremers
2021-06-05 13:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-05 17:08 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-06-05 17:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-05 17:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-05 18:46 ` João Távora
2021-06-05 6:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-05 9:32 ` João Távora
2021-06-05 9:59 ` Ergus
2021-06-05 11:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-05 11:55 ` Daniel Colascione
2021-06-05 12:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-05 17:59 ` Jim Porter
2021-06-05 18:56 ` Daniel Martín
2021-06-05 12:43 ` Ergus
2021-06-05 13:59 ` Remote GUI Emacs really works (was: cc-mode fontification feels random) Óscar Fuentes
2021-06-05 11:25 ` cc-mode fontification feels random Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-05 9:46 ` Ergus
2021-06-05 11:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-04 20:14 ` Yuri Khan
2021-06-04 10:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-04 10:05 ` Daniel Colascione
2021-06-04 10:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-04 10:34 ` João Távora
2021-06-04 10:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-04 18:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-04 18:36 ` Daniel Colascione
2021-06-04 19:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-04 19:16 ` Daniel Colascione
2021-06-04 19:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-04 19:33 ` Daniel Colascione
2021-06-04 19:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-05 0:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-05 6:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-04 19:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-04 19:26 ` Daniel Colascione
2021-06-04 19:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-04 10:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-04 10:42 ` Ergus
2021-06-04 15:54 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-06-04 18:30 ` Daniel Colascione
2021-06-06 11:37 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-06-06 11:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-06 12:27 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-06-06 12:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-06 14:19 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-06-06 17:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-06 17:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-06 18:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-06 18:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-06 18:33 ` Daniel Colascione
2021-06-06 20:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-06 20:27 ` Daniel Colascione
2021-06-06 20:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-06 19:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-06 20:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-07 7:35 ` martin rudalics
2021-06-07 13:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-07 13:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-08 0:06 ` Daniel Colascione
2021-06-08 15:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-07 15:58 ` martin rudalics
2021-06-08 4:01 ` Richard Stallman
2021-06-08 15:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-08 15:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-08 16:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-08 18:11 ` Daniel Colascione
2021-06-08 18:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-08 18:28 ` Daniel Colascione
2021-06-08 18:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-09 18:22 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-06-09 18:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-09 18:51 ` Daniel Colascione
2021-06-09 19:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-09 20:07 ` chad
2021-06-10 6:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-09 20:17 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-06-09 21:03 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-06-10 2:21 ` Daniel Colascione
2021-06-10 6:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-10 6:58 ` Daniel Colascione
2021-06-10 7:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-10 6:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-10 16:46 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-06-10 17:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-10 17:07 ` Daniel Colascione
2021-06-10 17:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-10 17:33 ` Daniel Colascione
2021-06-10 17:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-10 17:40 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-06-10 17:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-11 16:11 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-06-11 17:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-11 18:02 ` Daniel Colascione
2021-06-11 18:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-11 18:28 ` Daniel Colascione
2021-06-11 19:12 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-06-11 19:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-11 18:47 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-06-11 19:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-11 19:46 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-06-11 19:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-11 18:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-11 19:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-11 19:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-11 23:25 ` Ergus
2021-06-11 23:52 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-06-12 1:08 ` Ergus
2021-06-12 3:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-12 11:07 ` Ergus
2021-06-12 6:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-12 11:01 ` Ergus
2021-06-12 11:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-12 15:04 ` Ergus
2021-06-12 15:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-12 15:23 ` Ergus
2021-06-12 15:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-12 14:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-12 14:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-12 14:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-12 15:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-12 15:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-12 6:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-12 5:20 ` Theodor Thornhill
2021-06-12 13:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-12 15:56 ` Theodor Thornhill
2021-06-12 16:59 ` Ergus
2021-06-12 17:51 ` Theodor Thornhill
2021-06-12 17:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-12 17:53 ` Theodor Thornhill
2021-06-12 17:54 ` Ergus
2021-06-12 18:02 ` Daniel Colascione
2021-06-12 18:39 ` Ergus
2021-06-12 6:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-12 13:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-12 14:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-11 20:06 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-06-12 6:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-12 8:00 ` Daniel Colascione
2021-06-12 8:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-12 9:31 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-06-11 19:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-11 18:34 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-06-10 17:26 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-06-10 17:39 ` andrés ramírez
2021-06-10 21:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-11 6:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-10 15:16 ` Ergus
2021-06-10 15:34 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-06-10 19:06 ` Ergus
2021-06-10 19:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-10 21:56 ` Ergus
2021-06-10 15:59 ` Jim Porter
2021-06-10 21:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-11 20:21 ` Ergus
2021-06-11 20:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-11 20:37 ` Daniel Colascione
2021-06-11 20:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-12 6:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-12 8:03 ` Daniel Colascione
2021-06-12 8:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-12 13:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-12 8:47 ` Daniele Nicolodi
2021-06-12 8:57 ` tomas
2021-06-12 14:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-09 19:05 ` Daniel Colascione
2021-06-09 19:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-09 20:20 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-06-09 20:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-10 7:01 ` Daniel Colascione
2021-06-10 7:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-10 2:21 ` Daniel Colascione
2021-06-19 9:25 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-06-19 15:24 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-07-09 14:06 ` Daniel Colascione
2021-07-11 18:12 ` Stephen Leake
2021-07-15 18:13 ` Perry E. Metzger
2021-07-15 22:43 ` Tree Sitter (was Re: cc-mode fontification feels random) Perry E. Metzger
2021-07-19 23:49 ` Stephen Leake
2021-07-20 14:53 ` Perry E. Metzger
2021-07-21 0:04 ` Stephen Leake
2021-07-21 1:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-07-21 14:43 ` Perry E. Metzger
2021-07-21 16:21 ` Daniel Colascione
2021-07-21 19:15 ` Perry E. Metzger
2021-07-22 1:16 ` Daniel Colascione
2021-07-22 13:18 ` Perry E. Metzger
2021-07-22 13:49 ` Yuan Fu
2021-07-24 20:05 ` [SPAM UNSURE] " Stephen Leake
2021-07-25 0:41 ` Daniel Colascione
2021-07-26 4:24 ` [SPAM UNSURE] " Stephen Leake
2021-07-25 18:01 ` Perry E. Metzger
2021-07-22 14:00 ` Perry E. Metzger
2021-07-24 1:17 ` Richard Stallman
2021-07-25 16:13 ` Stephen Leake
2021-07-25 19:52 ` Ada (was Re: Tree Sitter) Perry E. Metzger
2021-07-26 5:05 ` Stephen Leake
2021-07-26 9:42 ` Stephen Leake
2021-07-26 14:01 ` Perry E. Metzger
2021-07-26 13:45 ` Perry E. Metzger
2021-07-27 0:26 ` Richard Stallman
2021-07-27 12:38 ` Perry E. Metzger
2021-07-26 2:23 ` Tree Sitter (was Re: cc-mode fontification feels random) John Yates
2021-07-24 19:59 ` Stephen Leake
2021-07-24 21:21 ` OFF-TOPIC: Ada availability (was: Tree Sitter) Óscar Fuentes
2021-07-25 7:31 ` tomas
2021-06-08 18:11 ` cc-mode fontification feels random Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-08 21:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-09 3:39 ` Richard Stallman
2021-06-09 8:34 ` martin rudalics
2021-06-09 13:14 ` `open-paren-in-column-0-is-defun-start` (was: cc-mode fontification feels random) Stefan Monnier
2021-06-09 15:15 ` Yuri Khan
2021-06-09 15:16 ` Yuri Khan
2021-06-12 17:29 ` cc-mode fontification feels random João Távora
2021-06-13 8:50 ` martin rudalics
2021-06-13 9:05 ` João Távora
2021-06-13 9:39 ` martin rudalics
2021-06-13 10:06 ` João Távora
2021-06-13 14:52 ` martin rudalics
2021-06-13 15:25 ` João Távora
2021-06-14 8:29 ` martin rudalics
2021-06-14 8:40 ` João Távora
2021-06-14 9:00 ` martin rudalics
2021-06-14 9:14 ` João Távora
2021-06-14 11:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-14 14:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-15 22:38 ` Ergus
2021-06-07 12:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-08 15:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-08 15:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-05 20:25 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-06-06 11:53 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-06-06 17:08 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-30 18:50 ` [PATCH] " Alan Mackenzie
2021-08-30 19:03 ` Perry E. Metzger
2021-08-30 19:18 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-08-30 19:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-30 19:28 ` Daniel Colascione
2021-08-30 19:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-30 20:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-31 10:54 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-08-31 13:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-31 16:02 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-08-31 16:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-31 16:46 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-08-31 17:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-31 18:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-31 21:17 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-08-31 21:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-22 20:13 ` [Committed PATCH] " Alan Mackenzie
2021-10-24 20:18 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-08-31 13:18 ` [PATCH] " Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-30 20:03 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-08-31 11:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
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