From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tree-sitter integration on feature/tree-sitter Date: Mon, 09 May 2022 14:18:10 +0300 Message-ID: <837d6vuf7x.fsf@gnu.org> References: <9E6D13F6-7E50-44EE-A357-C971A11A3636@gmail.com> <837d6xzpac.fsf@gnu.org> <7B1F29B4-045A-420E-8FD7-C7C72FF14DDC@gmail.com> <837d6xxjpv.fsf@gnu.org> <834k21xhzd.fsf@gnu.org> <26ADA626-793E-4E21-9502-63675A7ED16B@gmail.com> <871qx5je4q.fsf@thornhill.no> <83mtfswnrj.fsf@gnu.org> <834k20w46i.fsf@gnu.org> <05e225ef-24f0-2f4f-bd6e-c5cb58d78c40@yandex.ru> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13876"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, theo@thornhill.no, casouri@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon May 09 13:28:37 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1no1Z6-0003Rp-Rt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 09 May 2022 13:28:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39928 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1no1Z5-0001Cn-C7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 09 May 2022 07:28:35 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37950) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1no1P4-0000WR-QX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 May 2022 07:18:14 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48882) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1no1P4-0002Lm-Fh; Mon, 09 May 2022 07:18:14 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=Gv9pBwlu9wmQxpXsFpSja7qGcMMqgw7u4+8lxo+ef6U=; b=QmYLeG729gh1 sCIV+FgSkjzMGRQE5e0G4UtYqRlsCrWY+QdyLvhuhFhuWVzvBX2Dt/u2AplBqw1+kqFXMq6eNrQuL 5Ek2HuH1YWjdsJ2TT5r9TuSeXQBnYHlhXRpPK+3S9qhOBjTmxXQHb1flWRKutwmKmrrTNclGRuFhy 2T7rOwvuUlJXGdzWh5IbMoCp9nSw5uh98jLG895r5f2racjzR0AUCNgiT+c0Uim4E0QHRB9bVAyqr fEI2dMStRk+e2PX/dxsjAz7BOavqSLTDTFhJ0LdBdYz8Sb2A50DwWj+AhU0xIRVFKtkSnccKmfsNh rRYaPbc8GfkRkSwvRGPCvg==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3545 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1no1P3-00011X-VM; Mon, 09 May 2022 07:18:14 -0400 In-Reply-To: <05e225ef-24f0-2f4f-bd6e-c5cb58d78c40@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Sun, 8 May 2022 23:42:41 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:289519 Archived-At: > Date: Sun, 8 May 2022 23:42:41 +0300 > Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, theo@thornhill.no, casouri@gmail.com, > emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Dmitry Gutov > > On 08.05.2022 16:21, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >> We're talking about borrowing from Free Software editors, aren't we? > > You want to ask developers of those editors to assign copyright to us? > > If they agree, the problems I mentioned indeed won't exist. > > That ignores my whole point (Atom being Free Software). > > We do import externally maintained pieces of code from time to time, and > the particular feature under discussion depends on such code anyway > (Tree Sitter). Building Emacs against an external free library, or using an external application for some Emacs-related job, is not what I had in mind. If this was your point, then I didn't ignore it, I just described an issue with a different way of "borrowing" code: directly copying code into our sources. That cannot be done unless the author agrees, and for substantial amounts of such code we need a copyright assignment. I just wanted people to be aware of this. It is better to be aware of that up front than to use the "borrowed" code in a submission to Emacs, just to learn that we cannot accept such a submission.