From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Abysmal state of GTK build Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2022 08:14:54 +0300 Message-ID: <837d2jn2k1.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8735dn30if.fsf@gmail.com> <87pmgr8m3t.fsf@yahoo.com> <87a67u46ld.fsf@yahoo.com> <87zgfrsjwg.fsf@yahoo.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13398"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 04 07:17:22 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oUi0Y-0003HR-Dn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2022 07:17:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53826 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oUi0X-0004ur-Ad for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2022 01:17:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58898) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oUhys-0003ro-OQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2022 01:15:44 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:33840) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oUhyr-00038L-6t; Sun, 04 Sep 2022 01:15:38 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=TdVQFx4VU3fnEOvbqWoixl5SmQNM1iOwnVKnXWrtumk=; b=ZkPggzsMATtH Y7Wk+6KkDtXpb2uaqp5vvJXNzHm3NScD71HniSc+dQukorrwVcQi3djYqHBOZMn+KAl8TIQaIybZa jsqMgIieaFvLzouLU65OKNOj4/Z8TrEq7OJgDjPjuxgxQUAK38VCaIlu3f7nTYYgplfbENaTHOXDd yFKl5rxldAGufyj99NXQ8JsoiPB9563LdOKoeXqXuJbwF8Oo8wtzjReJQmLrMtHlxwNSZFPeDkDaF ghDtUilNjO4wqtt16vbOzpSGHAOFwAVLpU/voz7yePbQQwHJ6OX7V7lkBev5YMoqDwJQDPFo+AkAI G8kabn+4nfthXNf5LvdBpQ==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2814 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oUhyX-0003k2-Sv; Sun, 04 Sep 2022 01:15:34 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Richard Stallman on Sat, 03 Sep 2022 23:01:31 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:294686 Archived-At: > From: Richard Stallman > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2022 23:01:31 -0400 > > > No, this means functions like `set-frame-position' can't move the frame > > on the screen. The only way to move the frame is by the user dragging > > it with the mouse. > > Thanks. > > I don't know whether that limitation is necessary or justified in some way, > but I think that most users don't use `set-frame-position'. Emacs itself uses set-frame-position. It also moves frames on display via the 'top' and 'left' frame parameters. One notable case where this happens is the desktop.el package, which restores frame and window configuration of a previous Emacs session. So I think the inability to do that is quite a big deal for Emacs users.