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> From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2022 05:07:33 -0400
> Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net> writes:
> 
> > It appears to have been added in 2007[0], so this might be viable.
> 
> So I guess the below should be uncontroversial?

No, I see no reason for us to impose our preferences on users.
Program switches should not specify anything by default, unless not
doing so makes no sense, or doesn't allow Emacs to communicate with
the program or produce the effect we need.