From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tree-sitter introduction documentation Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2022 19:16:24 +0200 Message-ID: <837cyc22dz.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83edszjslp.fsf@gnu.org> <87tu1vxs3a.fsf@ledu-giraud.fr> <831qozjob7.fsf@gnu.org> <87cz8jxoat.fsf@ledu-giraud.fr> <83wn6ri7pn.fsf@gnu.org> <5e0a3185-de82-b339-0fa2-956779e63d6f@cornell.edu> <868rj6vfep.fsf@gmail.com> <4895891b-e5ea-9c37-f51b-df2e479ee758@yandex.ru> <83y1qt11xq.fsf@gnu.org> <9eb013da-d0fc-8e17-c6e3-1e8f913aebfa@yandex.ru> <83pmc50xxc.fsf@gnu.org> <71cfe4e8-3bb8-b0a6-9be5-8c0a6d92cfab@yandex.ru> <83h6xg29z3.fsf@gnu.org> <87wn6cyey5.fsf@posteo.net> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34367"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, dgutov@yandex.ru, theophilusx@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Philip Kaludercic Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 27 18:17:04 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pADZX-0008ia-35 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 27 Dec 2022 18:17:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pADYs-0008RO-4j; Tue, 27 Dec 2022 12:16:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pADYp-0008Qk-Ts for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Dec 2022 12:16:19 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pADYo-0005cW-Vv; Tue, 27 Dec 2022 12:16:19 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=UQlajSlqQZ1HflOZ+kyJ7zxU8Ryslk4Km/3tChpwbdo=; b=AydILbgGefdj 5MJ8HzStel100dKqW8oxQzKPiV7gQIvc2rb9oS3dxWqmJAMPEzLRhndz1ZY4CaFyuF+nVPJ351vxs nl9D3hehQVpSWUbS3PoVfAhrOHHyTFJxMyfht3xFIaBIca5/8m2jfhkwspbklf+bhuzPeYX6qPI1H DXDT8MmvPdtKhjvkZ94RWG36a2FD9sIzlq8HGUklUqPl6PCAD49erDOe7LFSlvM0vTps60K+eOLXY I+Uyic1lgZiQNlTyWGYXfnqNmXn+GYg2oKT/++NDwdYdKEDks4fNiAg/Q24LWxgsKs3MlDmLzY2aF Tf7ApkE5dDVSIOkQYb23Qw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pADYo-0000gZ-6P; Tue, 27 Dec 2022 12:16:18 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87wn6cyey5.fsf@posteo.net> (message from Philip Kaludercic on Tue, 27 Dec 2022 16:44:02 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:301975 Archived-At: > From: Philip Kaludercic > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Dmitry Gutov , > theophilusx@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2022 16:44:02 +0000 > > I have asked the question before, but freedom or not, the above is a > nuisance to run for every language. Which is why distros should make them available, like they do with other dependencies. > If the process is as automatic as the above example demonstrates, > shouldn't Emacs have a command to take a grammar and compile+install > it? It _is_ as simple as above (modulo the need to detect C++ sources and use g++ in that case). And I already said that such a command will have its place in Emacs (and Stefan agrees, AFAIU). So there should be no argument anymore about the possibility; it's just a matter of Someone sitting down and coding the darn thing. Like everything else in Emacs. > What would be even better is if the grammars were to be distributed > along with Emacs (either in a tarball or as a dependency a package > manage would install). Not going to happen, for the reasons I already explained several times. In a nutshell: we cannot and will not distribute binaries, and distributing sources is not useful enough to justify the maintenance headaches of distribution someone else's code.