From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Translation of manuals (was: SES manual French translation) Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2024 12:04:04 +0200 Message-ID: <837ckpxvmz.fsf@gnu.org> References: <835y0azhvo.fsf@gnu.org> <83wmsqy14p.fsf@gnu.org> <3E7CF23D-CE62-4581-80D6-E6266CEE4DF5@traductaire-libre.org> <83edexy5cy.fsf@gnu.org> <838r55y05r.fsf@gnu.org> <62B42DE8-CFDC-4D6E-A74C-28D7E4B063B1@traductaire-libre.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6142"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: stefankangas@gmail.com, vincent.b.1@hotmail.fr, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org To: Jean-Christophe Helary Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 04 11:04:59 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rLKau-0001Ej-FJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 04 Jan 2024 11:04:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rLKaY-0006eN-2w; Thu, 04 Jan 2024 05:04:34 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rLKaQ-0006cj-QM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jan 2024 05:04:27 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rLKaQ-0005NF-62; Thu, 04 Jan 2024 05:04:26 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=dEvOSibXwilkVI/iu/0t2TA/9SAFbcac5G/0ABHmhP4=; b=kCI8QwHQs8HIgsXPrmqh gFpT/gVJq/N5/B0a5SEE+/r4cmRTP5X7t+9S93MmCs4RItUy6lkSkO2Oe++FYtK8YphpyOER54XdP ItFwbKy65N7anEhY/PSF4pXFpA4g0lSRvNHPhtch+061l74aoTncQh1zJiqhXgJu4Y7sOIXqJbVY9 +AqaIV8SIRAzcPraBbyssaDPSN7rxojONzLiFBS+f30cznjOS79WKjdbDEOPmXvrp7s5J2ybVWvm7 caWquHZ1cnFWZqFq+sfDO7MxTEtMe9eBWEJHeYjQN+93ZwlLaC36gC2LeIqOMs2QSLV1XTYB0TN+B F8Y2iXBkZi37Jw==; In-Reply-To: <62B42DE8-CFDC-4D6E-A74C-28D7E4B063B1@traductaire-libre.org> (message from Jean-Christophe Helary on Thu, 04 Jan 2024 09:10:40 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:314533 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2024 09:10:40 +0000 > From: Jean-Christophe Helary > Cc: Stefan Kangas , Vincent Belaïche , emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org > > > On Jan 4, 2024, at 17:26, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > > I can speak for myself here: I would not > > want to use PO for this kind of job. Its way of showing the > > documentation as a series of unrelated strings makes it hard to read > > the document and understand what it's saying. > > ??? All the paragraphs are in the same order as they are in the texi > file. You can actually read the chapter from its beginning to its end > in the PO file with indication about its original location as meta > information. > > It is not a series of unrelated strings, or maybe I am not properly > understanding what you mean. The stuff PO adds, before and after the text, is clutter that gets in the way of reading. We don't need to argue here: to each their own, and the fact that I dislike PO doesn't mean you need to defend it or try convincing me that I should like it.