From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Composing Hebrew diacriticals Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 16:05:48 +0300 Message-ID: <83632q4or7.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83mxwlw2c0.fsf@gnu.org> <83iq6tq096.fsf@gnu.org> <83eihhow2j.fsf@gnu.org> <83aas3pvve.fsf@gnu.org> <838w7npodg.fsf@gnu.org> <8739xvi51a.fsf@catnip.gol.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1273842497 32304 80.91.229.12 (14 May 2010 13:08:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 13:08:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: handa@m17n.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, miles@gnu.org To: Yair F Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 14 15:08:12 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OCucY-0004JA-Ja for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 May 2010 15:08:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33360 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OCucX-0005qK-OM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 May 2010 09:08:05 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=60444 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OCucO-0005nP-Ll for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 May 2010 09:07:57 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OCucN-0000Lr-6g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 May 2010 09:07:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:37299) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OCucM-0000LR-Qc; Fri, 14 May 2010 09:07:55 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0L2E00F00UUR2D00@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Fri, 14 May 2010 16:05:49 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.127.206.56]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0L2E00EWMV1OEX20@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Fri, 14 May 2010 16:05:49 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:124770 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 13:45:41 +0300 > From: Yair F > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , handa@m17n.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > In the example above how can the ring component can be directly edited > without editing the circumflex? > > A base character composed with 3 marks is not that infrequent. Well, at least in Hebrew, everyday's written language almost never uses marks at all, so I think 3 marks would be limited to Biblical Hebrew or maybe poetry (and I'd be thrilled to know that Hebrew-writing poets start using Emacs for their craft ;-). If worse comes to worst, you can always disable auto-composition-mode, edit the text, then re-enable it. In the long run, it would be nice to have specialized commands for moving inside composed characters, but I suspect that making it happen would need non-trivial changes to the display engine. Volunteers are welcome to code that, but I personally have much more important things on my plate for the foreseeable future.