From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New maintainer Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2015 21:17:00 +0300 Message-ID: <83612iee77.fsf@gnu.org> References: <560CCEBA.9080607@online.de> <874miapdhs.fsf@openmailbox.org> <87pp0yktyx.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <22029.59130.54156.957525@turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87io6pnujl.fsf@red-bean.com> <874mi840si.fsf@wanadoo.es> <561034C3.2060101@cumego.com> <838u7j2lq0.fsf@gnu.org> <5610CF32.6080701@cumego.com> <83vban14y5.fsf@gnu.org> <56144409.5070501@cumego.com> <83k2qyem18.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1444241857 5768 80.91.229.3 (7 Oct 2015 18:17:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2015 18:17:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Malk'Zameth Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 07 20:17:24 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZjtHI-0007Yq-3L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2015 20:17:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58959 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZjtHH-0001kH-IG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2015 14:17:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44324) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZjtH3-0001jy-1H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2015 14:17:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZjtGy-0005Om-2Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2015 14:17:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:51541) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZjtGx-0005OO-RD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2015 14:17:04 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NVV003004408V00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2015 21:17:01 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.94.185.246]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NVV0031H44C3H50@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Wed, 07 Oct 2015 21:17:00 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.172 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:191055 Archived-At: > From: "Malk'Zameth" > Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2015 18:47:39 +0200 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > 1 - the GCCvsClang issue touches features of Emacs itself (impacting 100% of > Emacsers) or just people using GCC/Clang for dev? Anyone who wants an IDE for languages supported by GCC (not just C). > 2 - If the latter: If we where to move CC-mode from the emacs core to Elpa > would that cut the debate from the core Emacs point of view? No, because ELPA is for all practical purposes part of Emacs. > we have an amazing module/package system now right? And probably the C devs are > no longer the majority ? GCC supports more than just C, and C++ is still a very popular development language. > 3 - On more abstract level: If we where, hypothetically, to slim down the Core > Emacs as much as possible and rely heavily on the packaging system itself: what > contention points between Freedom and Technical Evolution would remain on the > core itself? All of it.