From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ASCII-only startup message? Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 20:16:34 +0200 Message-ID: <8360zlhy7x.fsf@gnu.org> References: <567ECD8C.1070408@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1451153771 6190 80.91.229.3 (26 Dec 2015 18:16:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 18:16:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 26 19:16:07 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aCtNu-0005AV-3G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 19:16:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39492 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aCtNt-0005Y8-Be for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 13:16:05 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37232) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aCtNg-0005Y3-LE for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 13:15:53 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aCtNd-0002FM-EH for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 13:15:52 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:54764) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aCtNd-0002FI-B4; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 13:15:49 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1599 helo=HOME-C4E4A596F7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aCtNc-0005Ia-L5; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 13:15:49 -0500 In-reply-to: <567ECD8C.1070408@cs.ucla.edu> (message from Paul Eggert on Sat, 26 Dec 2015 09:25:32 -0800) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:196904 Archived-At: > Cc: Emacs Development > From: Paul Eggert > Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 09:25:32 -0800 > > What bug did the attached patch fix? That text is a comment we insert into *scratch*; it's not a doc string. It is run through substitute-command-keys because we want to show the key bindings for visiting files, that's all. We shouldn't produce non-ASCII characters in comments, it's a user prerogative. The adverse effect of inserting non-ASCII characters shows when your locale's codeset is not UTF-8: if you want to save that buffer or any part of it that includes this comment, you get annoyed by the request to specify a suitable encoding (because *scratch* correctly starts with the locale's default encoding). > Emacs is supposed to display single quotes properly even in > ASCII-only locales, and if there's a problem with that display it'd > be better to fix the underlying problem than paper over the > symptoms. No, the display is OK, that's not the problem.