From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why does the tutorial talk about C-n/C-p etc? Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2016 18:39:35 +0200 Message-ID: <8360wvppvc.fsf@gnu.org> References: Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1457541598 27593 80.91.229.3 (9 Mar 2016 16:39:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 16:39:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 09 17:39:51 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1adh9G-0003En-MM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 17:39:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42487 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adh9G-0004s6-4I for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 11:39:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47684) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adh8y-0004rd-9f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 11:39:33 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adh8u-0006wu-9a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 11:39:28 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:41294) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adh8u-0006wo-5y; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 11:39:24 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3881 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1adh8t-0006bP-Dp; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 11:39:23 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen on Wed, 09 Mar 2016 16:38:05 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:201252 Archived-At: > From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen > Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2016 16:38:05 +0100 > > Or as somebody said on Reddit: > > https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/49of20/installed_emacs_started_tutorial_cn_cp_cf_cb_now/ > > Keyboards have arrow keys. We shouldn't be talking about C-n/C-p in the > tutorial. We talk about both, actually: Moving from screenful to screenful is useful, but how do you move to a specific place within the text on the screen? There are several ways you can do this. You can use the arrow keys, but it's more efficient to keep your hands in the standard position and use the commands C-p, C-b, C-f, and C-n.