From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: default-toplevel-value and set-default-toplevel-value Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2016 05:29:49 +0200 Message-ID: <8360m7xt8y.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83fultce6q.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1482723016 32648 195.159.176.226 (26 Dec 2016 03:30:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2016 03:30:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 26 04:30:10 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cLLzE-0007LC-54 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 04:30:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48720 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cLLzI-0007vd-Vp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 25 Dec 2016 22:30:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36128) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cLLzC-0007tw-I9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Dec 2016 22:30:07 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cLLz9-0006We-FY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Dec 2016 22:30:06 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:36256) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cLLz9-0006WY-C7; Sun, 25 Dec 2016 22:30:03 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2611 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cLLz8-0003pf-Jt; Sun, 25 Dec 2016 22:30:03 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Mon, 12 Dec 2016 11:57:09 -0500) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:210814 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 11:57:09 -0500 > > > These functions were evidently introduced in Emacs 24.4, but they are > > not documented, neither in NEWS nor in the ELisp manual. The doc > > strings are minimal, and leave me confused about how these are > > different from default-value and set-default. Is this just about a > > possible let-binding of a localized variable, > > Yes. > > > or is there something else involved? > > No, that's it. I seem to see there's more to this than meets the eye, see http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2016-12/msg00924.html. Could you please help me understand it? I'd like to document this for Emacs 25.2. TIA