From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] timer-list -> list-timers? Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 10:43:49 +0300 Message-ID: <8360ccfqdm.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87zi9u1xx7.fsf@udel.edu> <83vakik2ad.fsf@gnu.org> <874ls21ngq.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <87poale8vj.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87d16ljqec.fsf@yale.edu> <83a81pf9ge.fsf@gnu.org> <87vakdhul8.fsf@yale.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1505979886 18256 195.159.176.226 (21 Sep 2017 07:44:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 07:44:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: jorge.alfaro-murillo@yale.edu (Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 21 09:44:40 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1duwA3-0004J7-4a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 09:44:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52198 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1duwA8-0005Sf-Mw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 03:44:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60813) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1duw9R-0005O2-S9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 03:44:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1duw9O-0004YT-PI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 03:44:01 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:58018) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1duw9O-0004YC-LD; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 03:43:58 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4188 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1duw9M-0007DG-Ge; Thu, 21 Sep 2017 03:43:57 -0400 In-reply-to: <87vakdhul8.fsf@yale.edu> (jorge.alfaro-murillo@yale.edu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:218621 Archived-At: > From: jorge.alfaro-murillo@yale.edu (Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo) > Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 18:29:55 -0400 > > >> I agree. These functions that don't follow the package naming > >> convention are always hard to find. > > > > Doesn't "M-x apropos" help? > > Sure. But many times one does not know exactly what to look > for. 'apropos' displays a one-line summary which should help you in this task > For example if I am getting familiar with a package I might > want to see the name of all functions or variables in that > package. list-timers is in its own package. > For that I can use describe-function or describe-variable with > -TAB. Therefore, having at least aliases, as Tom suggested, > would be useful. Once again, you should use apropos instead. > So, I also have the same question as Ted: when is there a good > reason to not follow the `-' naming convention? AFAIU, the list-FOO case is one of them.