From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Fabrice Popineau <fabrice.popineau@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, rcopley@gmail.com,
jostein@secure.kjonigsen.net, jostein@kjonigsen.net,
drew.adams@oracle.com, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk
Subject: Re: windows installer
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 09:35:26 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8360a9icht.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFgFV9N83PaAbW=TV4m2ZgUsAcsbd-G=2fJO=3TmWpW12DnDSg@mail.gmail.com> (message from Fabrice Popineau on Fri, 17 Nov 2017 08:22:52 +0100)
> From: Fabrice Popineau <fabrice.popineau@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 08:22:52 +0100
> Cc: Richard Copley <rcopley@gmail.com>, Jostein Kjønigsen <jostein@secure.kjonigsen.net>,
> Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>, Jostein Kjønigsen <jostein@kjonigsen.net>,
> Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>, Phillip Lord <phillip.lord@russet.org.uk>
>
> > Windows is ridiculously slow to start a new process.
>
> You mean Cygwin and MSYS, not Windows itself, right? Because 99.99%
> of process starting during the build is MSYS Bash starting GCC, Grep,
> Find, and other programs.
>
> Actually, it is the CreateProcess() call which is overkill for most of its usages.
> From what I have read, the problem comes from attaching default console,
> checking permissions and stuff like that, which fork() does in a very different way.
> Windows has been designed for dlls and inter-dlls calls, not for processes communicating
> the way Unix did.
AFAIK, Cygwin (and therefore MSYS) makes this much more expensive due
to fork emulation.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-11-17 7:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-10-26 23:11 windows installer Phillip Lord
2017-10-28 21:47 ` Richard Stallman
2017-11-06 8:11 ` Jostein Kjønigsen
[not found] ` <87h8u6bae3.fsf@russet.org.uk>
[not found] ` <WM!524810e63610127669556b68fb62cde560daf19be50fc52d4d63dd232af7bdb0490810e03b84a6559c9b2017d8462cc3!@mailhub-mx4.ncl.ac.uk>
2017-11-08 7:31 ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2017-11-10 17:01 ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-10 18:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-10 20:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-11-10 21:22 ` John Mastro
2017-11-10 21:35 ` Fabrice Popineau
2017-11-11 7:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-11 11:34 ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-11 14:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-11-12 11:21 ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2017-11-10 21:33 ` Fabrice Popineau
2017-11-11 7:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-10 23:27 ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-11 0:25 ` Fabrice Popineau
2017-11-11 11:25 ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-12 0:30 ` Fabrice Popineau
2017-11-12 4:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <87fu9hbytq.fsf@russet.org.uk>
2017-11-13 22:25 ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-14 13:08 ` Fabrice Popineau
2017-11-16 16:15 ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-11 7:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-11 11:24 ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-11 12:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <<83ineiotjr.fsf@gnu.org>
2017-11-10 21:43 ` Drew Adams
2017-11-10 23:35 ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-11 7:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-11 7:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-11 9:42 ` Yuri Khan
2017-11-11 10:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-11 16:39 ` Drew Adams
[not found] ` <87a7zpbxza.fsf@russet.org.uk>
2017-11-13 22:44 ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-14 14:54 ` Drew Adams
2017-11-16 16:15 ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-16 16:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-16 16:31 ` Fabrice Popineau
2017-11-16 16:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-16 17:35 ` Fabrice Popineau
2017-11-16 17:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-16 18:10 ` Fabrice Popineau
2017-11-16 20:45 ` Richard Copley
2017-11-17 7:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-17 7:22 ` Fabrice Popineau
2017-11-17 7:35 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2017-11-17 7:25 ` Fabrice Popineau
2017-11-16 17:42 ` Noam Postavsky
2017-11-16 17:45 ` Fabrice Popineau
2017-11-22 22:39 ` Phillip Lord
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-11-12 8:56 Angelo Graziosi
2017-11-12 9:03 ` Fabrice Popineau
2017-11-12 11:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-12 12:39 ` Fabrice Popineau
[not found] ` <8760adbxw6.fsf@russet.org.uk>
2017-11-13 22:46 ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-14 14:36 ` Angelo Graziosi
2017-11-14 16:31 ` Fabrice Popineau
2017-11-14 20:12 ` Angelo Graziosi
2017-11-20 8:46 ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2017-11-20 18:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-22 23:01 ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-23 3:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-23 18:06 ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-23 20:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-24 19:13 ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-24 19:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-25 11:08 ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-25 12:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-27 17:56 ` Phillip Lord
2017-11-12 14:14 ` Angelo Graziosi
2017-11-12 11:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-12 14:27 ` Angelo Graziosi
2017-11-12 15:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-12 17:32 ` Angelo Graziosi
2017-11-12 18:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
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