From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: harfbuzz 2f72162: Fix crash in the Cairo build Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 20:48:50 +0200 Message-ID: <835ztrmqct.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20181214085417.15440.18845@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20181214085418.6616820538@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <831s6kgrtj.fsf@gnu.org> <83pnu4f45d.fsf@gnu.org> <837eg8dpd6.fsf@gnu.org> <83zhr6pqmr.fsf@gnu.org> <83womapgll.fsf@gnu.org> <83lg2qp8eq.fsf@gnu.org> <83d0o2otod.fsf@gnu.org> <0oy36o22he.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83o97kn4cv.fsf@gnu.org> <83d0nzmzmr.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="21950"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 10 19:49:46 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gsuAj-0005aD-Oj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Feb 2019 19:49:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34294 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gsuAi-0006yJ-JU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Feb 2019 13:49:44 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:57974) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gsuA8-0006yD-0u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Feb 2019 13:49:08 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:44070) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gsuA7-0005t5-Ml; Sun, 10 Feb 2019 13:49:07 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1392 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gsuA6-0005y9-OU; Sun, 10 Feb 2019 13:49:07 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Sun, 10 Feb 2019 13:18:25 -0500) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:233197 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 13:18:25 -0500 > > >> >> Every GNU/Linux distribution provides Xft. > >> > Thanks. What about non-GNU Posix hosts that run X? > >> AFAIK the issue isn't GNU-vs-other but old-X vs new-X. Xft is basically > >> part of what is expected of a recent enough X11 installation. We could > >> drop ftx support from `master`s `configure` and see if anyone notices. > > We need to disable it by default first. > > If we do it with a trivial change that we can easily revert before we > start pretesting Emacs-27, I see no reason why we'd first need to change > the default. Experience shows that the complaints come in too late, and the hope that we can easily revert such a change is frequently thwarted.