From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Preloading seq.el Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2019 10:12:54 +0300 Message-ID: <835zm57v9l.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87imqdjyzz.wl-all_but_last@163.com> <83tv9x8q71.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="46081"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: stefan@marxist.se, all_but_last@163.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Juanma Barranquero Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 06 09:13:32 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1i68R2-000BrU-8z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Sep 2019 09:13:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52876 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1i68R0-0002jZ-OL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Sep 2019 03:13:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57470) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1i68QX-0002R5-6R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Sep 2019 03:13:02 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:51298) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1i68QV-0002eF-D7; Fri, 06 Sep 2019 03:12:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2862 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1i68QS-0005WJ-E6; Fri, 06 Sep 2019 03:12:58 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Juanma Barranquero on Fri, 6 Sep 2019 02:49:24 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:239888 Archived-At: > From: Juanma Barranquero > Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 02:49:24 +0200 > Cc: Zhu Zihao , stefan@marxist.se, > Emacs developers > > A better metrics (but hard to estimate) is how many times a function of cl-lib has been reimplemented (likely in > a much simpler way), or how many workarounds are in place because someone wanted to use a cl-lib > function in the pre-loaded code, but couldn't, and didn't have the energy to try to convince emacs-devel to > preload cl-lib ;-) Only those of the cases where autoloading wouldn't have solved the issue. > I mean, cl-lib is infrastructure code. It's useful and > expressive. If it were preloaded, people would find uses for it. They can use it now by autoloading cl-lib functions they need.