From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "Why is emacs so square?" Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 14:14:50 +0300 Message-ID: <835zdpb0et.fsf@gnu.org> References: <863691n4xl.wl-me@enzu.ru> <86blno9yle.wl-me@enzu.ru> <87d0845msg.fsf@yahoo.com> <87h7xgjasw.fsf@yahoo.com> <875zdwjais.fsf@yahoo.com> <6a198677-41b6-4dbd-39d0-2b01550d53cf@yandex.ru> <32f6a2ce-e30f-059f-dcd4-233d666a10a1@yandex.ru> <87r1whiape.fsf@fastmail.fm> <87blnjopd0.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83v9lregx0.fsf@gnu.org> <87sgguh9we.fsf@fastmail.fm> <83mu72ckjr.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8rhpeym.fsf@fastmail.fm> <83eesdb37v.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="105861"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: joostkremers@fastmail.fm, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 24 13:16:18 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jRwJe-000RSH-24 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 13:16:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60516 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRwJd-0001rU-3h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 07:16:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58828) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRwIV-0000ZN-CO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 07:15:08 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48364) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRwIU-0008Iz-Pq; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 07:15:06 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4065 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jRwIS-0003d0-5I; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 07:15:06 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Fri, 24 Apr 2020 12:28:01 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247689 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 12:28:01 +0200 > Cc: Joost Kremers , Emacs developers > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Unless I misunderstand what you mean by "Org syntax", I don't think > > users who want to create documents with Org should be required to know > > that syntax. Instead, there should be commands to help them produce > > correctly formatted snippets. > > I'm not sure what you mean here. AFAICT, there are already several > such commands. > > - To insert a new headline, type 'M-RET'. > - To insert a source block, type '< s TAB'. > - To insert org export headers, type ''C-c C-e #'. > - To schedule a headline for later, type 'C-c C-s'. > - To insert a link, type 'C-c C-l'. > - etc. Then it seems like I was right: there's no need for users who want to produce documents with Org to be proficient in the Org syntax. Right?