From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2020 17:14:52 +0200 Message-ID: <835z4sr1ub.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87o8ivumn5.fsf@telefonica.net> <87v9d3nkxk.fsf@gnus.org> <83k0tbrv6w.fsf@gnu.org> <83czz3rs86.fsf@gnu.org> <83y2hprhj7.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9822"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: abrochard@gmx.com, rms@gnu.org, bugs@gnu.support, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Christopher Dimech Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 23 16:16:03 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ks5rv-0002RC-Tg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 16:16:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49722 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ks5ru-0005Ua-Sc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 10:16:02 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47110) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ks5r9-0004y7-3c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 10:15:15 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:51501) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ks5r8-0004U0-II; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 10:15:14 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:1507 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ks5qv-0003dT-W4; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 10:15:05 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Christopher Dimech on Wed, 23 Dec 2020 02:32:09 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:261599 Archived-At: > From: Christopher Dimech > Cc: abrochard@gmx.com, rms@gnu.org, bugs@gnu.support, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2020 02:32:09 +0100 > > > > Emacs could need two other people who are skilled > > > enough. People have got to understand this. Although Eli is responsible > > > and dedicated to Emacs Development, there cannot be just one person fully immersed > > > in it. > > > > I'm far from the only one who determines what developments are or will > > be going on in Emacs. Just look at "git log" and you will see that. > > Do you like it how it is? It doesn't matter if I like it or not if I cannot change it. Whatever I thought I could change I already did, or at least tried. > Have heard you say that ultimately you have to do work, and when you > ask for help nobody comes forward. Not always and with any issue, but sometimes, yes. Still, Emacs development is determined by many more people, which is a Good Thing.