From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: ofv@wanadoo.es, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Current mode command discovery
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 21:25:19 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <835z2q7azk.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87o8gi37pl.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Wed, 17 Feb 2021 18:49:42 +0100)
> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 18:49:42 +0100
> Cc: Óscar Fuentes <ofv@wanadoo.es>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
>
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
> > Because whoever marked it "nonsensical" made a mistake? Or because
> > time passed, things have changed, and what made no sense back then may
> > make sense now, and Emacs maintainers missed that or couldn't keep up?
> >
> > IOW, let's not assume that the marking is perfect. It's done by us,
> > and we can make mistakes.
>
> Any code can have bugs. That doesn't stop us from writing code or
> designing systems.
>
> If there's a bug, we fix the bug.
What do you tell a user who cannot invoke a command? "Wait for the
next release"?
That's why "fire escapes" are useful: they are Plan B for when the
unexpected strikes.
> But it's extremely unlikely that the tagging of, say, `eww-readable'
> will change.
Unexpected problems are always unexpected, they cannot be known in
advance. Therefore, examples don't help, because examples always talk
about something we considered and made a decision about. Whereas
"fire escapes" are about risk management, not about design.
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2021-02-14 17:19 Current mode command discovery Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-14 17:26 ` Sean Whitton
2021-02-15 3:00 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-14 17:29 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-15 3:02 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 12:21 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-16 12:38 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 12:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-14 17:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-14 17:56 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-14 18:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-15 3:04 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-15 15:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 12:04 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 15:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 16:28 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 17:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 18:08 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-02-16 18:12 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 18:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 18:37 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 18:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 18:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 19:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 19:33 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 19:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 20:55 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 3:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17 11:11 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 17:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-18 6:02 ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-16 23:32 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-17 15:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17 16:28 ` tomas
2021-02-17 17:49 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 19:25 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2021-02-17 19:33 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 18:00 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-17 19:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-19 5:41 ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-19 8:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-19 12:52 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-19 22:33 ` chad
2021-02-19 23:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-19 23:19 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
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2021-02-20 19:43 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-21 17:10 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-20 13:15 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-20 14:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-22 4:00 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-22 5:27 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-20 19:43 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-19 14:52 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-17 18:32 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-20 11:16 ` Jean Louis
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2021-02-17 11:15 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-14 23:30 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-14 19:53 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-14 20:25 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-02-14 21:20 ` tomas
2021-02-14 23:02 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-14 23:30 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-14 21:20 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-02-14 21:39 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-14 22:07 ` tomas
2021-02-14 23:30 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-14 23:30 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-14 23:30 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-14 23:30 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-14 19:37 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-14 20:00 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-14 20:16 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-14 20:49 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-14 21:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-14 23:18 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-14 23:46 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-15 2:26 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-15 0:29 ` Matt Armstrong
2021-02-15 2:45 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 2:20 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-17 11:29 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-17 11:30 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 16:26 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-17 17:52 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 22:46 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-18 10:14 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-18 13:05 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-18 14:06 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-18 17:15 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-19 12:23 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-19 12:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-19 12:34 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-19 12:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-19 12:59 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-19 13:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-19 13:45 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-19 13:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-19 14:07 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-19 12:35 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-19 12:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-19 12:52 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-19 12:38 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-17 18:21 ` Matt Armstrong
2021-02-17 18:32 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 22:26 ` Matt Armstrong
2021-02-17 22:33 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 18:41 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-17 22:28 ` Matt Armstrong
2021-02-20 11:55 ` Jean Louis
2021-02-20 11:49 ` Jean Louis
2021-02-20 14:18 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-20 14:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-20 14:31 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-20 14:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-20 14:51 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-02-20 16:52 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-20 17:20 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-02-20 17:43 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-20 17:31 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-02-20 20:17 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-02-20 21:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-20 22:09 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-02-21 6:15 ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-21 15:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-20 21:43 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-20 22:09 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-02-20 22:22 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-20 23:53 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-02-20 21:58 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-02-20 23:53 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-02-28 12:32 ` Jean Louis
2021-02-28 12:41 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-02-28 17:21 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-02-20 14:51 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-20 15:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-20 16:17 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-20 19:45 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-21 16:55 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-21 21:39 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-02-21 22:46 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-21 12:42 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-20 14:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-20 15:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-21 15:44 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-21 17:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-21 17:46 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-21 18:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-22 14:34 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-22 15:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-20 19:45 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-20 14:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-20 14:59 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-20 15:37 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-20 16:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-20 16:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-20 16:22 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-20 16:23 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-20 16:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-20 17:25 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-20 17:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-21 6:18 ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-21 15:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-21 16:54 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-21 16:44 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-21 6:23 ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-21 12:55 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-21 15:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-21 15:47 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-21 17:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-21 17:44 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-21 18:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-21 18:21 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-21 18:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-21 18:37 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-21 19:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
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