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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: kixtart-mode
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2022 09:09:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <835yfjmits.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1ou4Ru-0004qg-4r@fencepost.gnu.org> (message from Richard Stallman on Sat, 12 Nov 2022 23:18:26 -0500)

> From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2022 23:18:26 -0500
> 
> Our general policy makes a subtle distinction between these two cases:
> 
> 1. If a nonfree program FOO is not well known, we don't even mention that
> it exists.  Because we don't want to promote using FOO.
> 
> 2. If a nonfree program FOO is well known and widely used, something to
> help and encourage FOO's users to use some GNU packages along with FOO
> is good.
> 
> 3. Anything that would encourage the existing users of some GNU packages
> to use FOO with them is bad.
> 
> Is SickStart the main scripting language for Windows now?

No.

> BUT, it is a bad thing if people use SickStart to write scripts
> that they could have written in a free scripting language.

There are no scripting languages for MS-Windows that are Free
Software, AFAIK.

> Is there anything we can do to urge people to use Perl or Python
> or Bash instead of SickStart?

These are not native Windows scripting languages, and so are either
unable to access advanced Windows features, or require a lot of
additional non-default setup for doing so (and even after that they
are unable to access some of those advanced features).

> Why would someone, on Windows, use SickStart rather than those other
> scripting packages?  Does it have some major advantage, for use on
> Windows?

Yes, it has many advantages.  (I don't use it, but I've skimmed the
manual.)

> Or is it that Microsoft is going to tell everyone that "SickStart is
> the scripting language for Windows!

KiXtart isn't a Microsoft product, AFAICT.

> Maybe we can come up with a way to encourage people to choose some
> free and portable scripting language, even when using Windows.

One would have to be written first.



  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-13  7:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-09 20:55 [ELPA] New package: kixtart-mode morgan
2022-11-09 21:10 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-09 21:24   ` Morgan Willcock
2022-11-09 22:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-09 22:48   ` Morgan Willcock
2022-11-09 23:58     ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-10  0:20       ` Morgan Willcock
2022-11-10  0:40         ` Juanma Barranquero
2022-11-13  4:18       ` Richard Stallman
2022-11-13  7:09         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-12-11 23:33           ` Richard Stallman
2022-12-12 12:14             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-11 23:50           ` Óscar Fuentes
2022-12-12  6:17             ` North Year
2022-12-12 12:21             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-12 14:00               ` Óscar Fuentes
2022-12-20 23:59                 ` Morgan Willcock
2022-11-10  8:16   ` Akib Azmain Turja
2022-11-10  8:25     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-10  9:00       ` Akib Azmain Turja

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