From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Shrinking the C core Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2023 08:54:19 +0300 Message-ID: <835y38qvlg.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87il8betof.fsf@dataswamp.org> <83fs3dgxv8.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33153"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: incal@dataswamp.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 15 07:55:18 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qru5u-0008Or-8J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2023 07:55:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qru5L-0006kH-9k; Sun, 15 Oct 2023 01:54:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qru5J-0006jr-Bi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2023 01:54:41 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qru5I-0000bG-5e; Sun, 15 Oct 2023 01:54:40 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=2PgkkXsWyOIFSUJC4bAJK9B2WLCogyaeWz21CCtnhww=; b=FvpGSaZWBFYU XeVbTwua5UOQqlju2fmJc0/UgT9xzMK4ah59N7yVpVUdlH58FXZYtTIBnfy2eg4hAfOeuSctMNkpf JRTm2Fhl/EBRygToLcCj6OGRpplx7/7E8ak3lVxqwTNFa2QrEbHBygxSuRihMr0WnFJQgG/O2jHwJ WudgZAtZa61oXPF542FRYP7qqHZYbWaO+1fT1whpSyygenDR+om375jPv1bwDa1T200YU6ulPHbQ2 ENLGjpiO1qMoEue6cu8Zzs+a1C4TmVXKiNkugVp6tpuERHz/+4v5LWYm8xlZecfirxf+XS0qh2RLB dSWGS1N6czXjepRLSCze3Q==; In-Reply-To: (message from Richard Stallman on Sat, 14 Oct 2023 21:53:56 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:311473 Archived-At: > From: Richard Stallman > Cc: incal@dataswamp.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2023 21:53:56 -0400 > > > 466 out of 1637 Lisp files in Emacs require cl-lib (some of them only > > during compilation, i.e. they use only the macros). > > If a file uses cl only during compilation (for macros) it is > not much of a problem. How many use it at run time? 226. > I reported one file a few weeks ago that is always (or nearly always) > loaded and uses cl-lib, forcin it to be nearly always loaded too. > That should be fixed. Which file was that? I cannot reason about its causes to load cl-lib without knowing the details, which include looking into the file and considering what it does.