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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: stephen@xemacs.org, dmantipov@yandex.ru,
	monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: ptrdiff_t misuse
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2012 18:43:37 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <834npk3nfa.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FF6FCB0.8080400@cs.ucla.edu>

> Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2012 07:56:48 -0700
> From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
> CC: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>, dmantipov@yandex.ru, 
>  monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> On 07/06/2012 04:01 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > It is easy enough to explain that EMACS_POS is used for Lisp integers
> > that express buffer and string positions, and EMACS_INT for any other
> > Lisp integer values.
> 
> But not every use of ptrdiff_t is for buffer and string positions.
> Bitmap table sizes, for example.

Do they really need to be large?

>   EMACS_INT for Lisp integer values
>   EMACS_POS for buffer and string positions
>   ptrdiff_t for other large memory-related numbers
> 
> and at that point, we'll need to teach Emacs hackers about
> ptrdiff_t anyway.

Not if the objects that use ptrdiff_t are many.  And perhaps we don't
need ptrdiff_t at all, if the size doesn't need to be large.

> An argument for EMACS_POS is that it clearly identifies an
> integer as being used for a buffer or a string position, as
> having some other ptrdiff_t-like use.  But in that case shouldn't
> we also distinguish between buffer positions and string positions?

What for? they span the same range of values.

> And distinguish between character and byte counts, in both cases?

What for? they span the same range of values.  And the fact that it's
a byte position is usually clearly stated in the name of the variable
itself.

>   EMACS_INT for Lisp integer values
>   EMACS_BUFCPOS for buffer char positions
>   EMACS_BUFBPOS for buffer byte positions
>   EMACS_STRCPOS for string char positions
>   EMACS_STRBPOS for string byte positions
>   ptrdiff_t for other large memory-related numbers
> 
> This question answers itself, I think -- the extra complexity
> isn't worth it

Only if you take the argument towards the absurd.



  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-06 15:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-29 13:20 (unknown) Eli Zaretskii
2012-06-29 14:18 ` ptrdiff_t misuse [was :Re: (empty)] Dmitry Antipov
2012-06-29 17:07   ` Stefan Monnier
2012-06-30  7:13     ` Paul Eggert
2012-06-30  7:27       ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-06-30 13:12         ` Paul Eggert
2012-06-30 14:23           ` Stefan Monnier
2012-06-30 12:07       ` Stefan Monnier
2012-06-30 13:14         ` Paul Eggert
2012-06-30 14:23           ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-04  6:25             ` Paul Eggert
2012-07-04 16:39               ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-07-04 18:19                 ` Paul Eggert
2012-07-05 16:31                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-07-05 19:34                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-07-06  0:08                       ` Paul Eggert
2012-07-06  6:43                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-07-06  7:32                           ` Paul Eggert
2012-07-06  8:34                             ` ptrdiff_t misuse Eli Zaretskii
2012-07-06 14:51                               ` Paul Eggert
2012-07-06 21:30                               ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-06 21:33                                 ` Samuel Bronson
2012-07-07 10:59                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-07 15:34                                     ` Paul Eggert
2012-07-06  8:46                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-07-06 10:19                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-07-06 11:01                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-07-06 12:02                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-07-06 13:37                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-07-06 16:25                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-07-06 14:56                                   ` Paul Eggert
2012-07-06 15:43                                     ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2012-07-06 15:56                                       ` Paul Eggert
2012-07-06 16:00                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-07-06 16:42                                           ` Dmitry Antipov
2012-07-06 17:39                                             ` Paul Eggert
2012-07-07  1:31                               ` Chong Yidong
2012-06-29 18:54   ` ptrdiff_t misuse [was :Re: (empty)] Eli Zaretskii

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