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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: "Elias Mårtenson" <lokedhs@gmail.com>
Cc: raeburn@raeburn.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: "concurrency" branch updated
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2015 18:23:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <834mh3vyqg.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADtN0WL8UCv1+pfequQhjwxcSUs79qeXLEOzM+picxXUmKM3FQ@mail.gmail.com>

> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 11:58:19 +0800
> From: Elias Mårtenson <lokedhs@gmail.com>
> 
> I started playing around with this branch a bit and I quickly discovered an
> issue.

If you have read the discussions to which I pointed, you know that
this branch is not yet ready for play.

> I wanted to take the opportunity of describing this issue while at the
> same time hopefully gain some insight into the design of the feature.
> 
> What I did was to write the following function:
> 
> (defun foo ()
> (loop for i from 0 below 10
> do (message (format "Message %d" i))
> do (sit-for 1)))
> 
> I then started this function in a thread:
> 
> (make-thread #'foo)
> 
> What happened was that the 10 messages were printed to the *Messages* buffer
> without any delay between them, and then the entire Emacs session became
> incredibly sluggish.

This works for me, at least in "emacs -Q".  I don't see any of the
abnormal behavior you describe.  Did you try in "emacs -Q"?

> Looking at the implementation of sit-for, it seems as though it ends up calling
> read-event on a different thread which is probably not a good idea.

How do you see that?

When I run your program under GDB, I see only one announcement of a
new thread, when I evaluate the call to make-thread.  Then I see a
single announcement of thread exit, when the thread finishes counting
to 10.  I see no additional threads.

In general, it would make very little sense for sit-for and/or
read-event to start a new thread and run there, for fairly obvious
reasons.  What can happen when you call sit-for is a switch to
another thread, if there is one.  But in this case, I don't expect
that to happen.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-11-03 16:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-01  6:19 "concurrency" branch updated Ken Raeburn
2015-11-02 17:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-02 20:23 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-02 20:35   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-02 20:41     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-02 21:57       ` John Wiegley
2015-11-03  3:58         ` Elias Mårtenson
2015-11-03  9:40           ` Ken Raeburn
2015-11-03 16:26             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-03 16:23           ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2015-11-03  9:40   ` Ken Raeburn
2015-11-03 11:50     ` other "concurrency" approaches Nic Ferrier
2015-11-03 15:44       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-03 17:16         ` Nic Ferrier
2015-11-03 17:23           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-03 22:28             ` Nic Ferrier
2015-11-04  3:48               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-03 15:14     ` "concurrency" branch updated Filipp Gunbin
2015-11-03 15:35       ` Michael Albinus
2015-11-03 16:38         ` Thierry Volpiatto
2015-11-03 16:29     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-04  9:20       ` Ken Raeburn
2015-11-04 15:40         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-04 19:48           ` Ken Raeburn
2015-11-04 20:51             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-05  5:16               ` Ken Raeburn
2015-11-04 23:09         ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-05  3:41           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-05  6:29           ` Ken Raeburn
2015-11-05 13:17             ` John Wiegley
2015-11-05 14:17               ` David Kastrup
2015-11-05 15:07                 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-05 21:55               ` Tom Tromey
2015-11-05 22:01                 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-05 22:46             ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-06  8:37               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-05 21:49           ` Tom Tromey
2015-11-05 21:46         ` Tom Tromey
2015-11-06  7:58           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-06 14:58             ` Tom Tromey

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