From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suggestion: Add discussion of input focus handling to select-window; add select-frame-window Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2017 18:29:03 +0200 Message-ID: <834loqskkw.fsf@gnu.org> References: <5A30E9AF.2060105@gmx.at> <5A317FAA.3090209@gmx.at> <83d13iv095.fsf@gnu.org> <83bmj2ugok.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1513441767 9997 195.159.176.226 (16 Dec 2017 16:29:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2017 16:29:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rswgnu@gmail.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 16 17:29:21 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eQFKy-0002Ad-MD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 16 Dec 2017 17:29:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51191 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eQFL5-0006t0-Og for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 16 Dec 2017 11:29:27 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58316) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eQFKt-0006rK-78 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Dec 2017 11:29:16 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eQFKq-0003m3-2d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Dec 2017 11:29:15 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:35664) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eQFKp-0003ls-Ve; Sat, 16 Dec 2017 11:29:12 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3530 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eQFKo-00017U-5O; Sat, 16 Dec 2017 11:29:11 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Robert Weiner on Sat, 16 Dec 2017 11:21:56 -0500) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:221134 Archived-At: > From: Robert Weiner > Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2017 11:21:56 -0500 > Cc: Stefan Monnier , martin rudalics , > emacs-devel > > "Although this selects the window's frame, it does not alter the > frame's position in the window stack (see `raise-frame') nor does > it direct input focus to that frame. To do both of those at once, > see `select-frame-set-input-focus'. > > ​I still think this is a clear and modest proposal. select-window already > mentions frames so I don't see an issue with cross-referencing more frame-related > behavior to make the needs clear with one additional sentence. Are you guys > still against this given the further explanations? Yes. You are proposing to add text about a completely unrelated aspect of Emacs. Selecting a window has nothing to do with focus, but it's absurd to ask Emacs to mention in doc strings aspects that are NOT related to the aspects the doc string describes: there are too many of those.