From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [found the culprit] (was: [emacs -q versus empty .emacs file]) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 17:43:40 +0200 Message-ID: <834lcj8y1f.fsf@gnu.org> References: <875zx1xgiq.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <83lg5w9956.fsf@gnu.org> <87d0r76ewm.fsf_-_@mat.ucm.es> <87tvkjq2mh.fsf_-_@mat.ucm.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1542210145 7595 195.159.176.226 (14 Nov 2018 15:42:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 15:42:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Uwe Brauer Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 14 16:42:21 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gMxJ5-0001ox-Fv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2018 16:42:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:32837 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gMxLB-0002rm-S8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2018 10:44:29 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57853) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gMxKa-0002rU-T8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2018 10:43:53 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gMxKX-0006ZP-Kt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2018 10:43:52 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:39341) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gMxKX-0006Z7-I0; Wed, 14 Nov 2018 10:43:49 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1646 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gMxKW-00044p-C5; Wed, 14 Nov 2018 10:43:49 -0500 In-reply-to: <87tvkjq2mh.fsf_-_@mat.ucm.es> (message from Uwe Brauer on Wed, 14 Nov 2018 13:12:38 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:231131 Archived-At: > From: Uwe Brauer > Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 13:12:38 +0100 > > When I run emacs -Q it works as you say, but emacs -Q calls the one > Ubuntu provides, which is 25, I am using a compiled git master version > > So with > > /opt/emacs27/bin/emacs -Q > > The behavior of Z in dired is new in emacs 17; it does not uncompress a tgz to tar, > but extract the whole compressed tar, which is a different behavior. It seems I misunderstood your original report: you wanted Z on a .tgz file to only uncompress it? That indeed has been changed in Emacs 26, for consistency with a .tar.gz file. I don't think it's a good idea to have the previous subtle difference back. I do think that Z on a compressed Tar archive, be it a .tar.gz or .tgz file, should not by default unpack the archive. We could have a special prefix arg to request that, and by default we should just uncompress the file. But that's a different issue.