From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A target that's even more bootstrap? Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2019 19:03:13 +0300 Message-ID: <834l4mubi6.fsf@gnu.org> References: <877e9jf429.fsf@russet.org.uk> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="1760"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 18 19:07:26 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hdHZr-0000Cx-6O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Jun 2019 19:07:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60236 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hdHZq-0002Yg-11 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Jun 2019 13:07:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45142) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hdGZb-0007oW-Ci for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jun 2019 12:03:28 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:47006) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hdGZa-00083U-SF; Tue, 18 Jun 2019 12:03:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4658 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1hdGZY-0008O5-Do; Tue, 18 Jun 2019 12:03:02 -0400 In-reply-to: <877e9jf429.fsf@russet.org.uk> (phillip.lord@russet.org.uk) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:237853 Archived-At: > From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) > Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2019 13:53:02 +0100 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > mostlyclean > clean > distclean > maintainer-clean > extraclean > bootstrap-clean > > The the irregular hyphenation is a bit odd. clean, distclean, mostlyclean, and maintainer-clean are from the GNU Coding Standards (GCS). Many projects have extraclean. So this is tradition of sorts. > But, in addition, I would guess that many of these levels > (maintainer-clean, extraclean and bootstrap-clean) are really only > there to save time; with parallel builds and faster machines I > wonder how many of these are actually needed. AFAIK, the issue at hand is not the speed, the issue is to know what generated files get deleted. Some builds require a specific target from this list to be run before the build. For example, if you weant to reconfigure from scratch, you want distclean. > If I understand it, distclean is most severe. So, why not ditch > everything other than distclean and clean? Because the GCS says otherwise?