From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: acm@muc.de, rrandresf@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 16:07:50 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <834ku43c61.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1jJ6dO-0002BR-D1@fencepost.gnu.org> (message from Richard Stallman on Mon, 30 Mar 2020 22:28:10 -0400)
> From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
> Cc: acm@muc.de, rrandresf@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 22:28:10 -0400
>
> > For new features that can be disabled, that is mostly the case
> > anyway. But most new features we add don't have such knobs, usually
> > because we don't envision anyone to want them.
>
> My point is, if a feature causes significant slowdown, in general usage,
> that in itself is a reason to give it a knob.
When we know a new feature causes significant slowdown, we either fix
it, or provide a way to disable or work around it. The problem is, we
don't always know there's slowdown, as it frequently happens only in
specific rare use cases. (John said some time ago we should have a
benchmarking test suite, but I don't think anyone's working on it.)
Also, several slowdowns each of which is minor can together cause a
significant slowdown, and in that case it is even harder to detect and
fix that.
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2020-03-21 22:19 emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3 rrandresf
2020-03-21 22:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-22 3:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-22 12:38 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-22 15:08 ` Amin Bandali
2020-03-22 16:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-23 2:51 ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-26 19:31 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-26 20:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-26 20:38 ` rrandresf
2020-03-27 7:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-27 18:36 ` andrés ramírez
2020-03-28 2:48 ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-28 7:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 9:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 11:58 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-28 11:43 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-28 12:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 12:18 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-28 12:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 13:14 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-28 13:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-29 14:13 ` andrés ramírez
2020-03-28 13:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-28 12:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-28 2:40 ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-28 9:21 ` Michael Albinus
2020-03-28 9:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 10:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 14:43 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-03-28 15:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 15:17 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-03-28 15:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 16:10 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-28 16:11 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-28 16:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 16:43 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-28 21:08 ` rrandresf
2020-03-28 21:20 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-28 21:38 ` andrés ramírez
2020-03-28 21:41 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-28 22:15 ` andres.ramirez
2020-03-28 22:24 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-29 14:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-29 16:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-29 17:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-29 18:10 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-29 18:54 ` emacs-tree-sitter and font-lock (was: emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3) Stefan Monnier
2020-03-29 19:20 ` emacs-tree-sitter and font-lock Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-31 10:15 ` font lock with functions (was: emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3) David Engster
2020-03-31 10:42 ` font lock with functions Adam Porter
2020-03-31 13:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-31 14:25 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-31 14:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-31 15:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-01 10:13 ` David Engster
2020-04-01 1:02 ` Stephen Leake
2020-03-29 18:27 ` emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3 Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-29 18:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-29 19:11 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-29 19:04 ` 조성빈
2020-03-29 19:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-30 3:42 ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-30 13:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 2:28 ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-31 13:07 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2020-03-31 16:05 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-31 17:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 18:00 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-31 18:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 18:34 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-31 19:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-01 2:07 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-01 13:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-02 2:32 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-02 7:32 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-03 2:52 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-03 6:59 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-03 13:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-03 16:23 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-03 16:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-04 8:54 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-03 18:08 ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-04 8:55 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-05 0:07 ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-05 1:50 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-05 8:46 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-05 20:38 ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-05 10:23 ` Inlining policy (was: emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3) Andrea Corallo
2020-04-06 18:15 ` Inlining policy Stefan Monnier
2020-04-06 18:26 ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-06 19:17 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-06 21:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-08 4:03 ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-08 18:28 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-08 18:44 ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-08 19:09 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-08 21:00 ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-08 21:31 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-03 17:47 ` emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3 Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-04 8:56 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-04 10:45 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-04 11:10 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-04 11:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 8:44 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-05 13:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 15:50 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-05 16:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2020-04-05 18:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2020-04-05 19:25 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-06 2:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-06 18:59 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-07 14:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2020-04-08 2:09 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-10 3:33 ` Dmitry Gutov
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2020-04-19 17:12 ` Alan Mackenzie
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2020-04-07 3:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-05 19:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2020-04-05 19:28 ` Dmitry Gutov
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2020-04-20 18:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20 19:03 ` Dmitry Gutov
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2020-04-20 19:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2020-04-21 13:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2020-04-22 13:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2020-04-24 2:39 ` Richard Stallman
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2020-04-20 17:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-20 17:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2020-04-20 3:17 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20 15:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2020-04-20 17:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20 18:26 ` Dmitry Gutov
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2020-04-17 15:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-17 16:39 ` Dmitry Gutov
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