From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "modern" colors Re: Changes for emacs 28 Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 17:41:58 +0300 Message-ID: <834ko5k821.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87y2lkb6kb.fsf@gmail.com> <9A4FA038-CCFD-45DF-8B57-E348AFF951D9@gmail.com> <87sgbsb0eb.fsf@gmail.com> <20200909165723.kdnwicwvplmezusr@Ergus> <20200910102000.2t6tsju745xutg7u@Ergus> <20200910110832.ko66gqnqo4l664d6@Ergus> <83ft7pke22.fsf@gnu.org> <20200910131754.vmwb7wl3un7gt36k@Ergus> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13379"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: casouri@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, ams@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, ghe@sdf.org, tecosaur@gmail.com To: Ergus Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 10 16:42:47 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kGNmg-0003P8-JW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 16:42:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50962 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGNmf-0000ps-Lc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 10:42:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57136) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGNlt-0000Dc-GB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 10:41:57 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:59973) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGNls-0001EM-Lb; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 10:41:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4536 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kGNlq-0005kd-3q; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 10:41:54 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20200910131754.vmwb7wl3un7gt36k@Ergus> (message from Ergus on Thu, 10 Sep 2020 15:17:54 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255004 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 15:17:54 +0200 > From: Ergus > Cc: casouri@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, ams@gnu.org, > monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, ghe@sdf.org, tecosaur@gmail.com > > >If F10 is intercepted, perhaps we should also bind the command to > >another key? That's a simple and backward-compatible change. > > > I have discussed this with Stefan already and there are some small > backward compatible changes we can do here because usually F10 is > intercepted by gnome, toggle guake, gnome-terminal menu or tmux before > arriving to emacs. > > Some of the (non exclusive) options are: > > 1) Bind it also to another key This is what I had in mind. > 2) Show the binding somewhere (in the same bar or modeline) when > xterm-mouse-mode is disabled. I don't see how xterm-mouse-mode is relevant: we are not talking about the mouse, and TTY menus work without a mouse as well. > 3) Underline the letter in the menus that "opens" each menu from the > keyboard (as some Windows applications do) How will that help? > 4) Enable xterm-mouse-mode by default in more situations as most of the > popular terminal emulators are xterm compatible (gnome-term, xterm, > konsole, rxvt, guake, terminator) Again, xterm-mouse-mode is an orthogonal issue.