From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Internationalize Emacs's messages (swahili) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2020 16:16:24 +0200 Message-ID: <834kkbp9vr.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87o8ivumn5.fsf@telefonica.net> <87v9d3nkxk.fsf@gnus.org> <83sg7xrgr5.fsf@gnu.org> <83h7odrdwy.fsf@gnu.org> <86sg7w39fh.fsf@163.com> <83pn30pku5.fsf@gnu.org> <86wnx8otoj.fsf@163.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20180"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: dimech@gmx.com, abrochard@gmx.com, rms@gnu.org, bugs@gnu.support, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Zhu Zihao Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 24 15:17:31 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ksRQo-00055o-Rw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 15:17:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41466 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ksRQn-0007be-Q6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 09:17:29 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41636) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ksRQI-0007CJ-KE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 09:16:58 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:41770) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ksRQD-0000Bw-KF; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 09:16:53 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2755 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ksRQ5-0002Wy-U9; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 09:16:46 -0500 In-Reply-To: <86wnx8otoj.fsf@163.com> (message from Zhu Zihao on Thu, 24 Dec 2020 09:54:04 +0800) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:261679 Archived-At: > From: Zhu Zihao > Cc: dimech@gmx.com, abrochard@gmx.com, rms@gnu.org, bugs@gnu.support, > emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2020 09:54:04 +0800 > > > There were serious discussions of this stuff in the past, which > > revealed the parts of this (large) job, and in particular that just > > having a Lisp binding for gettext is not enough. We are "ready" in > > the sense that someone needs to implement at least some of those > > parts. > > Can you give me a link to the dicussion? They are easy enough to find: search the list archives for "gettext" or "l10n", and you will find them. The last one starts here: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2019-03/msg00081.html A previous one starts here: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2017-04/msg00750.html > 1. Emacs should be able to compile gettext *.po file, not just read *.mo > file. It's not elegant to distribute package with *.mo files bundled. > > 2. More tightly integration to gettext tools. This may already be > solved, we can merge the po-mode.el from gettext project to Emacs and > improve it. > > 3. Namespace. In order to make all 3rd-party Emacs plugins to use > gettext l10n, we should provide a proper way to let plugins declare > their own text domain. And we may also need to resolve the conflict. > Since all plugins run with Emacs in same process. text domain name > confliction will be a big problem. These are technical problems that can be solved relatively easily. The real issues are much harder, as discussed in those threads.