From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Experimentally unbind M-o on the trunk Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2021 22:38:48 +0200 Message-ID: <834kiigx0n.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8ed9b43502ae1480e06b@heytings.org> <83r1lohqoc.fsf@gnu.org> <8335y2ittg.fsf@gnu.org> <83blcqgzfd.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35048"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, ams@gnu.org, gregory@heytings.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jean Louis Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 11 21:40:15 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lAIl4-00090t-EV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 21:40:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34254 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lAIl3-0001IX-Fo for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 15:40:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41302) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lAIjj-0007z8-56 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 15:38:52 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:50502) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lAIjf-0006Tk-0T; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 15:38:50 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2328 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lAIjd-0002b2-EK; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 15:38:45 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Jean Louis on Thu, 11 Feb 2021 23:20:17 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:264442 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2021 23:20:17 +0300 > From: Jean Louis > Cc: ams@gnu.org, gregory@heytings.org, larsi@gnus.org, > emacs-devel@gnu.org > > You said it is simple. Of course it is simple for you, as you are main > developer, you have different memorization of Emacs functions than > average user. If you think that I remember by heart every single command and variable in Emacs, then you are mistaken. I don't, as my memory is nowhere near what you seem to assume, and that is why I use the Emacs Help system _a_lot_. > For the sake of users you should or could try understanding their way > of using Emacs and try looking from their own view points, not only > from your advanced view point. I'm an Emacs user just like you, so my POV is not very different.