From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: "Kévin Le Gouguec" <kevin.legouguec@gmail.com>
Cc: larsi@gnus.org, jonas@bernoul.li, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Tweaking the output of `C-h b'
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2021 16:38:27 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <834k8wlz4s.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87tugweyuh.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Kévin Le Gouguec on Mon, 01 Nov 2021 15:26:30 +0100)
> From: Kévin Le Gouguec <kevin.legouguec@gmail.com>
> Cc: larsi@gnus.org, jonas@bernoul.li, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
> emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2021 15:26:30 +0100
>
> >> The UI elements (chevrons) are similar, yes; IIUC the main difference is
> >> that magit-section uses fringe bitmaps, while Customize uses SVG
> >> buttons.
> >>
> >> As for features, AFAICT:
> >>
> >> - magit-section is a reimplementation of outline-minor-mode which does
> >> not rely on regexps to delimit sections: it supports arbitrary nesting
> >> of subsections, and provides commands for visibility cycling and node
> >> navigation (see magit-section-mode-map).
> >>
> >> - Meanwhile, Customize buffers "merely" provide ways to (un)fold single
> >> entities (user options) and jump to the previous/next buttons (which
> >> could be enough for the purposes of C-h b).
> >>
> >> (I hope my comparison is accurate; if I'm being unfair to either library
> >> I'd love to stand corrected)
> >
> > I'm not sure we are talking about the same thing: I meant the
> > Customize Group buffers, where you can expand and collapse individual
> > options that belong to the group.
>
> Mmm, I think we are? See attached screenshot, with UI elements circled
> in red:
>
> - on the left, a Customize group buffer, with "Outline 1" expanded, and
> other options collapsed;
>
> - on the right, a magit-revision buffer, with most sections expanded,
> except for lisp/help.el's subsections (diff hunks), which are
> collapsed.
>
> (Note that nothing indicates visually that the collapsed hunks are
> subsections of the "modified lisp/help.el" section, unfortunately)
Then I think what we have in Custom is better, and it has the problems
I mentioned in my other mail taken care of. Why should we invent yet
another set of "widgets" for Help buffers?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-11-01 14:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-10-31 18:18 Tweaking the output of `C-h b' Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-31 18:28 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-10-31 18:34 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-10-31 18:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-31 18:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <878ry9x95c.fsf@gnus.org>
2021-10-31 20:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-31 19:21 ` Stefan Monnier
[not found] ` <87h7cxx9bh.fsf@gnus.org>
2021-10-31 20:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-31 20:09 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-31 20:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-31 20:44 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-31 20:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-31 21:19 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-31 21:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-31 22:16 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-31 22:55 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-10-31 23:10 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-01 10:21 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-11-01 14:23 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-04 18:37 ` Juri Linkov
2021-11-01 12:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-01 14:27 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-01 14:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-01 12:52 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-11-04 17:06 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-31 20:42 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-10-31 20:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-01 3:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-01 9:47 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-11-01 12:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-01 14:26 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-11-01 14:38 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2021-10-31 20:15 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-31 20:24 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-01 0:32 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-01 0:50 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-01 1:41 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-01 2:24 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-01 4:55 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-01 14:20 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-01 13:34 ` T.V Raman
2021-11-01 13:45 ` Po Lu
2021-11-01 14:28 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-01 17:47 ` T.V Raman
2021-11-01 17:52 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-01 2:37 ` Po Lu
2021-11-01 4:39 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-01 5:26 ` Po Lu
2021-11-01 11:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-01 11:58 ` Po Lu
2021-11-01 12:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-01 12:46 ` Po Lu
2021-11-01 13:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-01 13:43 ` Po Lu
2021-11-01 14:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 1:11 ` Po Lu
2021-11-02 1:39 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-02 1:55 ` Po Lu
2021-11-02 2:02 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-02 2:05 ` Po Lu
2021-11-02 2:10 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-02 2:18 ` Po Lu
2021-11-02 14:56 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-02 2:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-02 14:10 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-02 14:30 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-04 18:34 ` Juri Linkov
2021-11-04 19:41 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-01 18:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-01 17:12 ` Matthias Meulien
2021-11-01 17:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-01 17:20 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-01 17:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-01 17:27 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-01 18:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-01 18:51 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-01 22:03 ` Matthias Meulien
2021-11-01 21:55 ` Matthias Meulien
2021-11-02 13:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 14:11 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-01 11:00 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-11-01 14:13 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-01 23:41 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-01 23:50 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-01 23:59 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-02 2:04 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-02 14:11 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-02 14:32 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-01 14:01 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-01 14:48 ` Customize SVG icons (was: Tweaking the output of `C-h b') Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-11-01 16:36 ` Yuri Khan
2021-11-01 17:58 ` Customize SVG icons Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-11-01 14:09 ` Tweaking the output of `C-h b' Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-01 12:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-01 15:11 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-01 1:24 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-31 19:22 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-31 20:51 ` Howard Melman
2021-10-31 21:32 ` Gregory Heytings
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