From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Abysmal state of GTK build Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2022 05:38:01 +0300 Message-ID: <834jy3adme.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87ilmlluxq.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <87ilmlluxq.fsf@yahoo.com> <87h725olz1.fsf@gnus.org> <8735dplo5d.fsf@yahoo.com> <87zgfxlnw3.fsf@gnus.org> <87h725k8ze.fsf@yahoo.com> <87edx9ln65.fsf@gnus.org> <874jy5k80y.fsf@yahoo.com> <875yillm64.fsf@gnus.org> <87edx9ist0.fsf@yahoo.com> <874jy5gjoi.fsf@yahoo.com> <87wnb0bnmn.fsf@gnus.org> <87tu64ec1w.fsf@yahoo.com> <875yik8pb6.fsf@gnus.org> <87bksceaqu.fsf@yahoo.com> <87czcs79l8.fsf@gnus.org> <87wnb0ctf0.fsf@yahoo.com> <83czcs9o9p.fsf@gnu.org> <87tu63bxbm.fsf@yahoo.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27525"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, gregory@heytings.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 23 04:41:03 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oQJqh-000724-EY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2022 04:41:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50654 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oQJqe-0006jG-HX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 22:41:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60382) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oQJni-0005qc-LJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 22:37:59 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:34732) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oQJnh-0002EE-FF; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 22:37:57 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=x7sI/HtWG8+KRNvzEKrUJaQORLOb1BWRtAkJDjngifY=; b=eRCEyToAFQzW c5E6iPmm6kQ9JTnE2DYLBMYW5/mjnXpylZ/NWZ/rYbH9vTwKpBJdhARJh36sQ4ALuu6H5VIk81LyK 8QpSKyfpEK6zuzbXGLhrvjzI2lrj3NEvcHLz7BaAUdyV8n7ePAUlVXYdTjR52aiPACc2pzDfSLDDr If6zYYd0/CuGu3Ez6mMOUCs9zazDs91B8tfNifmJvozXr+mUDZTnrs9sD/AUuw9TegYMA0BfQrZMW bfFP+vuCNtzZuzjoQNU2yQwEiU+HckdAu9o91ET6KFWtQG6y2Io9H6+63B0+qNB5w9MbuuwX4is+7 Jct46gvCWx59lGRxgILBaQ==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3277 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oQJng-0001y8-9v; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 22:37:56 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87tu63bxbm.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Tue, 23 Aug 2022 08:47:09 +0800) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:293828 Archived-At: > From: Po Lu > Cc: larsi@gnus.org, gregory@heytings.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2022 08:47:09 +0800 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > I don't understand: don't the non-GTK builds also support XInput2? If > > so, and if we make one of those non-GTK builds the default, people > > will still have an XInput2 build, just not a GTK one. Or what am I > > missing? > > I meant if the GTK build is to stay the default. > > > If the default, non-GTK, build supports XInput2, then why is it a > > problem to have the GTK build use XInput2 only as an opt-in feature? > > There is no problem with that, but only if GTK is turned off. Then I think we should aim for the defaults described above. What about builds with GTK 2 -- do they have fewer problems? Can they support XInput2 in a reasonable way?