From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term) Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2022 21:52:09 +0300 Message-ID: <834jwkyc2u.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87bkqxf1ij.fsf@tethera.net> <8335c9dkyf.fsf@gnu.org> <83edvqafr7.fsf@gnu.org> <83h70m19yv.fsf@gnu.org> <87tu4mm7kt.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <87pmfa9k30.fsf@gnus.org> <83r0zqysyu.fsf@gnu.org> <877d1im5k3.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <83h70myrrp.fsf@gnu.org> <87r0zqknrx.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <83ill0yfct.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="25802"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rlb@defaultvalue.org, larsi@gnus.org, yandros@gmail.com, tomas@tuxteam.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 03 20:56:58 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ofQcc-0006X7-3z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2022 20:56:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53850 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ofQca-0004mK-1n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2022 14:56:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39242) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ofQY4-00079b-Av for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2022 14:52:17 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:38424) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ofQY3-0006I2-Gx; Mon, 03 Oct 2022 14:52:15 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=kuzu8H4ppCybADsZNLvmmz3+M+FpXXRtwE0x1nFMnPU=; b=fwxzcVJD7Yk8 iR018MzcM3717HmfNh6IWwguSvg7mpWd1pNIKBEMbX4QRS9IyozS18KzGw2TBspJ3VZNBizeLfpQ+ OOsWLoe/0EukfGO6OjVpqAQzF7eIkeWORpJNsBSmXA1bKgiVLPnowmVmlHKbl5Gm2WlrQ/FO5XCTH F5hAQ12jhIQRCOA59wW7Rsz/75/AOSp02cxzJ4hShmpPajnSb3UGRNJD4BHkn2nZto3tpOTPhTkCb 30pThrW0IBzZKwmOuKTbGJZUtNMGXWOzQu+ZypJETkHkj7Xj0rJbD9GoU8b1svcvd+jGLX/udWnhD z4F9f8KM1cIqfk9gYyFRXw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2157 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ofQY2-00042I-Vw; Mon, 03 Oct 2022 14:52:15 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Mon, 03 Oct 2022 14:45:32 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:296787 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: Rob Browning , larsi@gnus.org, > yandros@gmail.com, tomas@tuxteam.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2022 14:45:32 -0400 > > > And I guess now I'm confused what is it exactly that you'd want to > > achieve. Do you want to disable native compilation, or do you want to > > have all *.eln files in a shared location? > > AFAIK he wants: > > - To eagerly compile the `.eln` files for the third party ELisp packages > installed system-wide using Debian's package manager. > > - That every time Emacs is run as part of > (un)installing/building/testing a Debian package, that Emacs should > not write any file under $HOME/ (or ~$REALUSER/ either). That's where I'm confused: if *.eln files are installed system-wide, then why would there be any compilation that writes to the home directory, which then causes Rob to wish to disable it? All *.eln files are already available, no?