From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Make all tree-sitter modes optional Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2023 22:34:12 +0200 Message-ID: <834jrmacsb.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83o7rexe2n.fsf@gnu.org> <83h6x5xym7.fsf@gnu.org> <83h6wr6gmz.fsf@gnu.org> <868ri140sr.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83fsc92gbz.fsf@gnu.org> <83cz6ccagy.fsf@gnu.org> <838rgzaqmj.fsf@gnu.org> <83pmaaaicy.fsf@gnu.org> <87v8k2g04m.fsf@dick> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2309"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: acm@muc.de, juri@linkov.net, casouri@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, larsi@gnus.org, theo@thornhill.no, jostein@secure.kjonigsen.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: dick Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 15 21:35:02 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pSOUY-0000IP-2f for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2023 21:35:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pSOU6-00017Q-BF; Wed, 15 Feb 2023 15:34:34 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pSOU4-00014n-Bd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2023 15:34:32 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pSOU3-0001eS-Gh; Wed, 15 Feb 2023 15:34:31 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=FsodeglyE1Yo/Tb9FyoINvJPRKlgDIuIuXj17h5xu7E=; b=gfi3jXM93RmI Q5ymELlKEp/KV7HlQw9+wckNRjLu+Xei7eJTy7PpBhdHQ++xuZ046fdb8eN85f9QEMZZNbM4Kz4nZ oD99S07/1AOjNzquIijD0gwiRRS95wtbJ6p2a6nN7E9wE30yz/67ELUv/D8FcmBd7LkL5022hqF6F W6W7+GyYoBD9Fp3mC89N8pIZ5A9E1KSm2ui+DXITtfnK1DwotC+4c7Hq5FSPw8Hskt/5A5WIl+x9H f9vE0EXFegl5yVRzZEMNdLx6crpG+ZurZCGAW8efkCSqq4Mk703Z/Hg74ZECgVBAogEq5Itv+6mTj tRMyiNLP4ligBX17xgUzUg==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pSOU2-00077z-Ue; Wed, 15 Feb 2023 15:34:31 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87v8k2g04m.fsf@dick> (message from dick on Wed, 15 Feb 2023 15:11:05 -0500) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:303350 Archived-At: > From: dick > Cc: Alan Mackenzie , juri@linkov.net, casouri@gmail.com, > monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, larsi@gnus.org, theo@thornhill.no, > jostein@secure.kjonigsen.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2023 15:11:05 -0500 > > EZ> Instead, you only ... suggest ways to turn them off. > > Why the continued pretense of surprise at cc-mode guy's naysaying? > > If your reliable but decades-old module were aggressively being unseated, > you'd react with equal hostility. Nearly all middle-aged programmers, > myself among them, would. Will you ever learn that when someone says something that seems trivial and maybe ridiculous to you, it could be for reasons other than stupidity or ignorance? And that you should think harder to try to figure out what you might be missing here, rather than assume that you are the only bearer of wisdom around?