From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Inadequate documentation of silly characters on screen. Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:07:49 +0200 Message-ID: <833a4aqnvu.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20091118191258.GA2676@muc.de> <20091119082040.GA1720@muc.de> <874ooq8xay.fsf@wanchan.jasonrumney.net> <20091119141852.GC1720@muc.de> <20091119155848.GB1314@muc.de> <19205.30349.786007.611623@parhasard.net> <836396qoxt.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1258661316 19183 80.91.229.12 (19 Nov 2009 20:08:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:08:36 +0000 (UTC) To: kehoea@parhasard.net, acm@muc.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org, schwab@linux-m68k.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, jasonr@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 19 21:08:28 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NBDIp-0000iN-F3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:08:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48273 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NBDIo-00067F-S3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:08:26 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NBDIG-0005kN-Im for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:07:52 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NBDIB-0005fP-DH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:07:51 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33140 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NBDIA-0005el-H4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:07:46 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:50359) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NBDI6-0008WI-TB; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:07:43 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0KTD00200H5BTY00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:07:42 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.70.37.193]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0KTD001VYH8SY240@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:07:42 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <836396qoxt.fsf@gnu.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:117294 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:45:02 +0200 > From: Eli Zaretskii > Cc: acm@muc.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org, schwab@linux-m68k.org, > =09monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, jasonr@gnu.org >=20 > > From: Aidan Kehoe > > Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:47:09 +0000 > > Cc: Jason Rumney , Andreas Schwab , > > =09Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org > >=20 > > Tangentally, for those that like the unibyte/multibyte distinctio= n, to my > > knowledge the editor does not have any way of representing =E2= =80=9Can octet with > > numeric value < #x7f to be treated with byte semantics, not chara= cter > > semantics=E2=80=9D >=20 > Emacs 23 does have a way of representing raw bytes, and it > distinguishes between them and characters. See the ELisp manual (I > mentioned the node earlier in this thread). This is of course true, but for bytes > #x7f, not < #x7f. Sorry.