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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Jim Meyering <jim@meyering.net>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: oops? read/write vs type of length parameter
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 17:02:43 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8339losx6k.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877hb1j7lz.fsf@rho.meyering.net>

> From: Jim Meyering <jim@meyering.net>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 14:27:36 +0200
> 
> > That would be a major inconvenience, and even annoyance: in Emacs, it
> > is a very frequent idiom to pass the result of subtracting two
> > EMACS_INT values, because we reference buffers and strings with such
> > values.  Having the argument as unsigned type would trigger warnings
> > and will need explicit type casts.  And with type casts, there's the
> > danger of interpreting a negative value as a large positive one.
> 
> >From my experience with signedness-related warnings,
> it is counterproductive to enable options like -Wsign-conversion
> and -Wsign-compare, unless you're prepared to cherry-pick fixes for
> the few "real" problems and to ignore the others.

I agree, but unfortunately -Wall includes warnings about signedness,
and I sometimes use -Wall to make sure I didn't miss something
potentially bad.  And there's no way of knowing what some future
version of GCC will do to save us from ourselves ;-)

> Adding casts to work around them makes the "cure" worse than the
> disease.

Right, which is why I didn't want to use them.

> What about when EMACS_INT is defined to "int"?

David answered that: the result would be less grave than the other way
around.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-04-11 14:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-11  8:55 oops? read/write vs type of length parameter Jim Meyering
2011-04-11  9:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-11 11:08   ` Jim Meyering
2011-04-11 11:28     ` David Kastrup
2011-04-11 11:52     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-11 12:27       ` Jim Meyering
2011-04-11 12:31         ` David Kastrup
2011-04-11 21:54           ` Jim Meyering
2011-04-12  4:44             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-12 13:24             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-12 13:29               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-12 14:47                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-12 17:00                   ` Large file support (was: oops? read/write vs type of length parameter) Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-14 20:57             ` oops? read/write vs type of length parameter Michael Welsh Duggan
2011-04-11 14:02         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2011-04-11 11:40   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-04-11 13:58     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-12  1:16       ` Paul Eggert
2011-04-12  3:01         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-12  5:06           ` Paul Eggert
2011-04-12  5:46             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-12  8:19             ` Paul Eggert
2011-04-12  9:41               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-12 15:53                 ` Paul Eggert
2011-04-12 16:56                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-12 23:55                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-04-13  5:14                   ` Paul Eggert
2011-04-13  6:31                     ` Jim Meyering
2011-04-13  6:37                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-13  8:15                       ` Paul Eggert
2011-04-13  9:46                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-13 16:06                           ` Paul Eggert
2011-04-13 17:22                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-13 19:31                               ` Paul Eggert
2011-04-13 19:59                               ` PJ Weisberg
2011-04-14  4:49                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-13 20:02                               ` Paul Eggert
2011-04-13  6:49                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-13 14:35                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-15 13:13                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-15 16:34                         ` Paul Eggert
2011-04-15 18:20                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-15  1:29                   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-15  8:55                     ` Paul Eggert
2011-04-15  9:41                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-15 10:24                         ` Paul Eggert
2011-04-12 12:32             ` Davis Herring
2011-04-12 13:38               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-12 15:43                 ` Paul Eggert

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