From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Copyright/Distribution questions (Emacs/Orgmode) Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 05:54:35 +0300 Message-ID: <8338v7gg44.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87ober717z.fsf@gmail.com> <87a9pgayzy.fsf@gmail.com> <87bo9wyr74.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87y5d0m3l3.fsf@gmail.com> <515BE920.1000503@online.de> <87obdwvw6v.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <515BF509.2040706@online.de> <87k3ok9bq7.fsf@zigzag.favinet> <87r4ir4r19.fsf@gmail.com> <83bo9vir0k.fsf@gnu.org> <87hajn4muw.fsf@gmail.com> <83zjxfh9ik.fsf@gnu.org> <87a9pf4m4j.fsf@gmail.com> <83y5czh8qs.fsf@gnu.org> <8762034la9.fsf@gmail.com> <83wqsjh7tl.fsf@gnu.org> <87y5cz35r2.fsf@gmail.com> <83txnnh770.fsf@gnu.org> <87txnn350a.fsf@gmail.com> <83ppybh61i.fsf@gnu.org> <87mwtf33wr.fsf@gmail.com> <83obdvh5cm.fsf@gnu.org> <8738v7a2qm.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <1365030627.1819.1.camel@german-desktop> <87y5cz81ri.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1365044042 23822 80.91.229.3 (4 Apr 2013 02:54:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 02:54:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: german@xelalug.org, kjambunathan@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 04 04:54:30 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UNaJq-0007QI-0v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 04:54:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39229 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNaJR-0000Ba-4K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 22:54:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39708) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNaJO-0000BV-7h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 22:54:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNaJM-0003hH-S9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 22:54:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:64850) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNaJM-0003hB-Jf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 22:54:00 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MKP00D00M73D900@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 05:53:59 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MKP00CXWMPZXCA0@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 05:53:59 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <87y5cz81ri.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.172 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:158640 Archived-At: > From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , > Jambunathan K , > emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 11:31:45 +0900 >=20 > Germ=C3=A1n "A. Arias" writes: >=20 > If you mean that you can distribute a fork of Emacs containing that > code without infringing either license, yes, that's true. A distribution doesn't have to be a fork. I can make my own tarball of Emacs any time without forking anything. I can at that time add t= o the "official" Emacs any suitably licensed code I choose. According to Jambunathan, I cannot include his code in such a distribution: > I am un-willing to allow the users of Org mode to enjoy the privile= ges > of my changes within the comforts of Emacs. So it's not GPL, it's "GPL with buts", a.k.a. non-free. (Arguably, this is my interpretation of his intentionally vague statement above. But given his unwillingness to explain those restrictions, what other device do I have but interpret that in the most extreme sense?)