From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 20:04:36 +0200 Message-ID: <83388nv0sr.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20141205123549.GA29331@thyrsus.com> <2815659.zRQ0WWWeRr@descartes> <20141205175810.GD3120@thyrsus.com> <87lhmlncb1.fsf@earlgrey.lan> <20141205193643.GB5067@thyrsus.com> <87tx19rd1b.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20141205215138.GF7784@thyrsus.com> <54823617.4000406@cs.ucla.edu> <83k325195l.fsf@gnu.org> <5482D94B.2070102@cs.ucla.edu> <5484FF31.5010808@cs.ucla.edu> <5485FC59.5030700@cs.ucla.edu> <87388p6glt.fsf@engster.org> <871to9lw6g.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <5486A704.6090305@cs.ucla.edu> <87k321jj4e.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <54876F7F.9000607@cs.ucla.edu> <54877822.1030600@cs.ucla.edu> <83lhmfv60n.fsf@gnu.org> <54887E66.4000904@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418234707 16884 80.91.229.3 (10 Dec 2014 18:05:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 18:05:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 10 19:04:56 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xyld9-0006qv-Bk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2014 19:04:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47164 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xyld8-0000gk-UJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2014 13:04:54 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59963) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xyld0-0000fj-Ke for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2014 13:04:51 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xylcv-0001tZ-FZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2014 13:04:46 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:36801) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xylcv-0001tH-8C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2014 13:04:41 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NGD00B00ORS4J00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2014 20:04:40 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NGD00ASOOVRUZ50@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Wed, 10 Dec 2014 20:04:40 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <54887E66.4000904@cs.ucla.edu> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.172 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179676 Archived-At: > Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 09:09:58 -0800 > From: Paul Eggert > CC: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > How about if all of you started complaining on bug-texinfo about the > > speed (or, rather, lack thereof)? > > We did that right away, when we first discovered the performance problem. I know, I was there ;-) What I meant was to keep complaining. > But the bug is neither easily fixed nor likely to get fixed, and its > persistence will continue to discourage contributions to GNU > documentation. Things change with time. What looked improbable then might be less improbable now. If nothing else, one or two active contributors to Texinfo came on board since then; perhaps one of them will pick up the gauntlet.