From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Have you all gone crazy? Was: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 20:22:42 +0200 Message-ID: <833886p6od.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87388bnzha.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87k31mdbhe.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tx0qiv45.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87h9wqd3i5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87fvc8kdsp.fsf@gnu.org> <6e11cd85-09a0-4b7a-baa2-0c810bdebbce@default> <871tnsg0w7.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <834msoqrsg.fsf@gnu.org> <833887r8qn.fsf@gnu.org> <83ppbbprfh.fsf@gnu.org> <87bnmv5hkn.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <838uhzow4v.fsf@gnu.org> <21656.62449.288897.317196@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419359034 8811 80.91.229.3 (23 Dec 2014 18:23:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 18:23:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: adatgyujto@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 23 19:23:44 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y3U7S-00019a-Me for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 19:23:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45821 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y3U7R-0007RT-Op for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 13:23:41 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48560) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y3U6l-0007JR-7o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 13:23:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y3U6g-00055Z-1B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 13:22:59 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout28.012.net.il ([80.179.55.184]:53667) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y3U6f-00055O-MB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 13:22:53 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout28.012.net.il by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NH100100RRY3W00@mtaout28.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 20:20:39 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NH1003CYSAF4L00@mtaout28.012.net.il>; Tue, 23 Dec 2014 20:20:39 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <21656.62449.288897.317196@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 80.179.55.184 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180589 Archived-At: > Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 13:47:45 +0900 > From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" > Cc: adatgyujto@gmail.com, > emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > > The problem is how do you assemble the results [of analysis of > > > user browsing behavior] into an "index" for the manual? > > > > That's one issue that needs to be solved as part of the project. > > IMO, it's insoluble, without violating some auxiliary principles of > the GNU Project. Only because you are trying to solve a problem that doesn't need solving. No one said we need to communicate personal behavior traits back to the master manual. They can stay on the local machine. Not to mention the fact that this feature is not the most important part of such a front end, at least not in my eyes. I don't know if anyone is thinking about working on this, but if they do, my advice would be to start light, and first get the basic problem of NL to query conversion solved. Don't be intimidated by the seemingly huge and complex problem, and don't be hypnotized by the mammoth called "Google". Keep in mind that the problem which needs to be solved here is much smaller and simpler than the one Google solved and continues to solve every day: we have a much narrower domain with a much smaller and simpler terminology.