From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: VC mode and git Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 18:50:49 +0200 Message-ID: <83384rog7q.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20150324163714.GA27775@thyrsus.com> <83y4mmpb1n.fsf@gnu.org> <20150324173536.GA30608@thyrsus.com> <83twxap92g.fsf@gnu.org> <20150324181936.GA31705@thyrsus.com> <831tkdot8v.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1427388697 23946 80.91.229.3 (26 Mar 2015 16:51:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 16:51:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: esr@thyrsus.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 26 17:51:29 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YbAzq-0002je-Ka for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2015 17:51:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45543 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YbAzq-0000XM-0v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2015 12:51:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49615) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YbAzl-0000St-Qk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2015 12:51:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YbAzf-0007SS-SP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2015 12:51:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout28.012.net.il ([80.179.55.184]:41171) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YbAzf-0007SC-K4; Thu, 26 Mar 2015 12:50:55 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout28.012.net.il by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NLT00O00W24S000@mtaout28.012.net.il>; Thu, 26 Mar 2015 18:49:33 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NLT00ML6W2K4C20@mtaout28.012.net.il>; Thu, 26 Mar 2015 18:49:33 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 80.179.55.184 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:184337 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 06:57:18 -0400 > From: Richard Stallman > CC: esr@thyrsus.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > AFAIR, none of the messages described any expert uses of Git, they all > > describe very simple and basic workflows, ones that are widely used by > > everyone. > > With all due respect, you underestimate the amount of expertise > involved. I don't think so. > Perhaps there is a natural tendency to think, about the things that > you are an expert on, that it isn't much expertise. I'm far from being an expert on Git, believe me. I just memorized a couple of useful workflows which work for me. > People like me, who barely know how to use Git but have to use it a > little, must be very numerous. I don't have statistics, but I very much doubt that your assertion is true. > It would be wrong to make "C-x v v" disrupt those > > workflows. > > I am not proposing to disrupt anything, just to change the default, > and only when using VC. A default that goes contrary to expectations of the many will be seen as a disruption, I think.